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on this episode of skeptic oh I wonder

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too technical with the slide rule

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science you know the slide real science

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where we're just going well it must be

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this must be this must be this when at

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the edges we realize how little we don't

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spectrum of be it banks then or what wim

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hof does or you know somebody who has a

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near-death experience and as part of the

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experience goes through a healing of a

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some other ailment you know I mean that

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there's all sorts of those stories well

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doctors I mean they believe that if you

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can make yourself sick like I think it's

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called like a taco soup oh

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cardiomyopathy a broken heart syndrome

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where the heart can weaken itself

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literally from severe mental stress so

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they believe in that but yet they don't

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believe that possibly from a spiritual

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standpoint or a metaphysical standpoint

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or whatever you want to call that a

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person could will themselves to get

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better I've noted to happen and it's

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happened stay with us for skeptic Oh

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hi everyone I have an interview coming

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up in a minute with John Brisson about

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fix your gut and about how our stomach

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is kind of the driving engine for a lot

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of health issues there is a lot of

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skeptical issues around this that I

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think are interesting and we explored a

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for example if everything is

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consciousness why do we even bother with

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health or why do we bother so much

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especially someone like me who winds up

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kind of doing and trying a lot of

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different health related things

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why bother world what world kind of

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thing so that's one topic and on the

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more conspiratorial side why does it so

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often seem like our medical

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establishment is conspiring against our

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health and sometimes seem to be driving

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technology so those are a couple of

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things that we get into but mainly we

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talk about how fixing your gut can

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really improve your health hope you

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enjoy my chat with John person today we

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welcome John Brisson to skeptic Oh John

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is the author of fix your gut the

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definitive guide to digestive disorders

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and although that might not seem like a

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natural fit but some of the topics we

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that after listening to many hours of

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interviews with John reading his

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excellent book and even hiring to do a

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consult with a member of my family boy I

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can tell you you're in for a treat I can

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assure you that John is in the right

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place here on skeptic oh it's great to

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have you John thanks for joining me

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thank you for having me Alex I'm a huge

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fan of the show I love what you do at

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skeptic Oh enjoyed many of your

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interviews especially when he asked the

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tough questions like asking Jim Marrs

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point blank if he was a Scientologist

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me on well it's great to be here and it

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is great to know someone who is familiar

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excellent interviews out there that

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people can find they

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higher side chats is great crime Eric

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was great I know you've done other ones

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people haven't heard of before and they

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those in advance and I think we're gonna

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have some fun yes very much so I enjoyed

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enjoy it you know that's one of the lost

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arts of podcasting it seems that less

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and less people want to get into you

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skeptic oh so much because you are

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willing to ask the tough questions

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great great be a skeptic I always call

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them one-offs you know I go that person

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least I got that interview in there but

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of start with the main thing that people

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beginning is an intro of you who you are

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gut yeah Alex well my name is John

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about they also had medical issues my

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mother had systemic lupus when she was

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me because they didn't know how lupus

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pregnancy and didn't know how it was

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gonna affect me later in life you know

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was that was in you know develop

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lupus and she was a staunch Catholic and

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probably have gone through with members

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complications of lupus she contracted

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bronchitis on our immune system could

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first people the United States diagnosed

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father especially when I was in high

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school you know him taking rob of iron

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States government dressing up as an Arab

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surgery afterwards and everything my I

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chemicals develop chemical phobia and I

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this whole story is so fascinating

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because people might not know this at

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this point and they might be hearing

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kind of these random unbelievably really

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tragic things that have happened in your

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life but your work now touches literally

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thousands and thousands of people with

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it before it's come up in my personal

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health situation and let's break that

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the story because it's great stuff yes

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negative bacteria Helius helio back to

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ulcers for years doctors thought that

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teaser researchers knew for about since

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ploor I was the cause of peptic ulcers

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disease and gastritis and reflux

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that he had cultured and gave himself

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ulcers and then treated with antibiotics

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two cultures Bailey with just antacids

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pleura infection with triple or

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quadruple antibiotic therapy so it took

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which is H pull or IED dysbiosis there's

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Asia pull or I can cause many possible

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you'd be the cause of any possible cause

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of any autoimmune diseases multiple

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sclerosis for example of h pylori is

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Sjogren's syndrome which is mainly

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pleura colonization dysbiosis so yeah

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may be very ill it made me have a severe

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anxiety from ammonia production it

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destroyed my life worse and actually

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despite appendix burst yeah that might

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have been killing me but it didn't rob

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me as much as my mental faculty or my

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life as much as the H ploor i chronicles

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you know in John let me just interject a

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quick little story from my own health

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that were it intersected with h pylori

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and I shared this a few years ago on

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this show but you know I'm I'm pretty

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much one of these guys that don't like

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to go to the doctor kind of thing which

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a lot of people can relate to but I had

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this heart condition that was causing me

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to be really tired and I finally broke

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down went to the doctor the doctor says

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hey it's all in your head there's

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nothing there so I went back I still

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felt bad a few months later I go to the

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doctor again she puts the thing and she

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goes oh my god we got to get you to a

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cardiologist right away you have afib

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you have this irregular heartbeat it

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sounds really bad we have to do

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something

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so this was a few years ago and luckily

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for me my friend Barack Obama stepped in

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and it kind of screwed up everything

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with the Obamacare so that my insurance

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was gonna cause me to have to wait 90

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days to see the cardiologist and all the

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rest of this so I had this little time

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and I was able to kind of regain my

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composure and go wait a minute you know

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I'm not I'm not about these doctors I

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wanna I'll do it if I have to but I want

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to look for everything possible so I

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started doing my work and the one bit of

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data that I came across was this study

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that was done by these gastrointestinal

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specialists in Italy who had discovered

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that people with h pylori were 20 times

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more likely to have afib than those yet

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weren't so they hadn't drawn any you

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know cause and effect but they had said

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gee isn't this interesting especially 20

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times not not 2 times not 4 times 20

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items

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armed with this data I was I had this

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renewed vigor I was gonna go back and

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maybe the medical system establishment

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could help me now that I had some data

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we had something we could target on yeah

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I brought the study into the first

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doctor she wouldn't even look at it

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she dismissed it out of hand I mean this

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is like a story you tell somebody

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wouldn't even look at I printed it out

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she says no it has nothing to do with

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what you're eating or anything like that

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so doctor number two wouldn't look at it

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tries to prescribe me all these black

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box drugs if anyone doesn't know those

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are drugs that it says right onam can

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cause all these horrible side effects

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and they're being they're being given

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for off-label they're not even being

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prescribed for the fda-approved purpose

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but by the discretion of the doctor and

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I don't want to go on too far but I

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didn't last very long at that doctor

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either but what the guy told me at the

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end and and maybe this will pick up back

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with a story that did you encounter his

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well but the guy said hey I just want to

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make sure you're telling your wife

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cuz when the ambulance shows up at door

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I don't want her coming to me and I just

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want to add that this guy was in a

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clinic that a very you know high-end

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clinic here in Southern California that

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promotes complementary medicine so that

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was my experience and then what I

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tackled and how I tackled it is going to

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fit in nicely with a lot of the stuff

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that you've discovered and you are it's

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so brilliant on this stuff you can talk

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for hours and tell people and and people

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will never get enough I mean you can

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talk forever people never get enough

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they're gonna have to go check out your

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book and your website because you're so

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generous and sharing all this

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information but I want you to thanks for

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listening to that I want you to pick

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back up with with your story because I

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think what you've gone through is is

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really it's terrible to hear that

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somebody's had to endure all that but

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it's hard not to believe that there was

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some purpose in that given the work that

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you're doing now Johnson so tell us what

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happens after this after you have your

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this health crisis with h pylori yeah

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well did one last thing Alex and I'll

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continue on that it's known that H

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fluoride as a gram-negative bacteria

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produces into toxins and into toxins are

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a main cause when kept unchecked by our

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body our main source of inflammation

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you know elevate H s CR P so yeah I mean

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the study the Italian study that you're

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referencing being linked to a DH being a

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pathogenic link it's because of the

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endotoxins and certain cytotoxins @h

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fluoride produces and you see that with

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a lot of dysbiosis so it's interesting

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that you brought this information to

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your doctor and they're just like you

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know whatever this but if they actually

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if you took it to possibly a

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microbiologist maybe if someone with

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also with immunologist type background

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they look at it they go yeah you're

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probably right

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so a similar thing happened to me I had

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a when I was going through my healthy

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she had a doctor tell me that ubiquinol

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didn't work and I was just wasting my

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money and wait you know my health and

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you know and everything and laughed in

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my face when in Japan it's used for high

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blood pressure and heart failure by

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prescription so it's is that ignorant is

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astounding and and I was sick you know

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for a long time I've been got out of H

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pleura about two or three years ago once

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I finally figured out that was what it

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was and but my main trials that I had

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with the medical establishment was with

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my middle child Abel he my wife when she

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was pregnant with him she started

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developing poly Hydra most which she had

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carried a lot a lot of fluid and they

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did a ultrasound around the 32 week mark

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and noticed that he wasn't moving very

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much at the time and they could really

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give us no reason why his heart was

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beating but he wasn't moving so they had

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no idea of the extent of what was

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happening so my wife later had a

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c-section because they're afraid that he

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may not survive in the natural vaginal

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birth and when he was born he was

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extremely contracted both of his arms

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and hands were turned inward you could

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barely make an audible cry so they

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rushed him off to the to the intensive

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care unit and so we had no idea what's

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going on they had they've never seen

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anything like this before

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and so eventually they were working to

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try to get him transferred to UNC Chapel

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Hill and I remember you know he was on

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the ventilator he was in ICU the the

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head pediatrician the head of the

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neonatal unit at the local hospital came

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up to me and we were talking and

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everything and you know he was like well

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do you want to move them to Chapel Hill

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or do you want to take them off the

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ventilator and I was like well let's

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move him to Chapel Hill at least till we

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get a diagnosis of what it is he's not

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getting any worse you know and the

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doctor looked right at me and he said

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well as disabled as he is

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he's probably better off dead and I was

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shocked I was taken back you know I was

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like holy crap I mean my wife you know

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she started crying and I I mean I took

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me everything not just to punch him you

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know I was livid and I was shocked too

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at the same time you know how dare

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someone the medical and not all doctors

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are like that I'll get to that later

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and my own personal experience but it

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was I was just you know I wasn't I was

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just not back so able gets transferred

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to UNC Chapel Hill they start running

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some tests we meet with one of his

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doctors who I will mention her because

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she was an excellent doctor or name her

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name was Jane fan my first meeting with

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her didn't go ego very well either but

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what we but later she you know believed

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in me and she believed in Abel and she

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changed where she was a very very

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brilliant woman she was a Nero

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geneticist a dual doctor and she said

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that the same thing that Abel was going

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to die and there wasn't anything that

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anybody could do but they were gonna do

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a muscle biopsy and maybe they can

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figure out what he has in the arrest

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sent off to the Mayo Clinic so they did

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and at the same time he was still not

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changing much at all it's been about

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three or four months at that time you

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were staying at the Ronald McDonald

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House and they got the dynast dig back

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one doctor had seen it before and or

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something similar to it which is

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Costello syndrome which is another hrsg

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mutation disease and he was like I've

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only seen one other case of this ever

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and it's only handful of cases in the

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medical literature my son was six

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diagnosed in the world with the name of

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the condition is congenital myopathy

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with excess muscle spindles it doesn't

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even have a fancy syndrome name or

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anything or a person discovered it's

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just what it is and so they told us he

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was gonna die most kids with Costello's

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die from heart failure and there was

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nothing that could be done and my wife

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and I talked about it for a long time

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and

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I didn't want him to suffer you know I

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didn't really think there's I mean I I

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knew some things at that point not

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nearly as much as I knew now but I

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decided no Alex I didn't know what

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really could be done for him so he made

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the decision we didn't want him to

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suffer that at least maybe we can have

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him breathe on his own and you know he

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can die with us you know so we were

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going to take off the ventilator so

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around that time nothing that can be

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medically explained occurred he spit out

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his breathing tube his innovation too

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and he could actually breathe better off

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the innovation tube than on and there is

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still no medical explanation of why that

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would have happened because his is is

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his his chest muscles his lung his lungs

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all that should've atrophied while he

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was on the ventilator because they were

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being you know not used properly but yet

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there he was so they go well you could

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take him home so he took him home and he

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was at her hospice and we eventually got

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him off a hospice and I star we started

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taking care of him so I started you know

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talking to dr. fan and I'm like look

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let's try some things so we started

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putting out we put him on Co Q 10 we put

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it on magnesium and she was reluctant at

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first but eventually you know showed her

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the data and she was like sure let's do

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this you know she came from China uh-uh

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she saw you know Chinese medicine work

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for people in her own family and she had

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mentioned to me so she was like fine

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let's do this so we started to do it now

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he started to get better I mean he

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wasn't ever gonna be a hundred percent

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you know he had a lot of physical issues

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that would have caused him problems that

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he may not have been able to overcome

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fully like the contractures or the

543
00:22:58,610 --> 00:22:57,360
muscle weakness to some degree but it's

544
00:23:00,440 --> 00:22:58,620
hard it becomes stronger his blood

545
00:23:02,539 --> 00:23:00,450
pressure had become normal and he

546
00:23:07,159 --> 00:23:02,549
started gaining weight and he was

547
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:07,169
becoming a normal boy and then he it was

548
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:08,220
through a feat he's having a feeding

549
00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:10,289
tube and we started giving his own

550
00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:13,980
formula and he lost a little bit of

551
00:23:18,049 --> 00:23:15,720
weight and one of the nutritionist was

552
00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:18,059
like well he's losing a little weight we

553
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:19,500
don't know if you're really feeding them

554
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:21,090
even though we told her that the nurses

555
00:23:24,019 --> 00:23:22,710
were you know the nurses documented that

556
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:24,029
we fed them and everything he's being

557
00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:24,640
fed up

558
00:23:32,009 --> 00:23:30,100
and so they pretty much was like you

559
00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:32,019
know we're gonna have to contact you

560
00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:33,940
know the hospital social worker you know

561
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:35,710
if he doesn't gain weight you need

562
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:38,500
increases feet we were scared I should

563
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:41,769
have told her just to screw off at the

564
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:43,809
time but I think we basically were

565
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:46,090
intimidating you that they had given

566
00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:48,070
your son they had given up hope on him

567
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:50,980
they had given him to you to die at home

568
00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:54,490
and then they wanted to jump in again

569
00:23:59,850 --> 00:23:57,700
when some Mickey Mouse protocol that

570
00:24:04,139 --> 00:23:59,860
they thought should be in place wasn't

571
00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:04,149
there that's pretty incredible yeah and

572
00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:06,070
he was actually turning up he's doing

573
00:24:08,909 --> 00:24:06,789
well

574
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:08,919
you know I mean by their standards other

575
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:10,330
than his weight was a little bit off but

576
00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:12,610
even dr. fan you know she we talked

577
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:14,169
about it she was like well it's normal

578
00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:15,970
for people with his condition that

579
00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:17,470
failure to thrive and his weights not

580
00:24:23,009 --> 00:24:20,980
that off you know and we were adjusting

581
00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:23,019
his formulas to the homemade formula and

582
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:24,760
that's normal but yet the nutritionist

583
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:28,059
was still pushing it and so we put him

584
00:24:35,549 --> 00:24:33,010
on back on the standard formula and he

585
00:24:38,430 --> 00:24:35,559
started having really bad breathing

586
00:24:40,049 --> 00:24:38,440
problems and I figured it out that it

587
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:40,059
was aspiration because he was over

588
00:24:43,259 --> 00:24:42,010
feeding but they didn't ever look at is

589
00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:43,269
that they thought us because muscular

590
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:45,220
condition was getting worse that he was

591
00:24:49,649 --> 00:24:47,769
regressing and so we've spent months in

592
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:49,659
and out of the hospitals he had to have

593
00:24:54,299 --> 00:24:52,570
be intubated and put on a ventilator he

594
00:24:56,879 --> 00:24:54,309
almost died from it before but

595
00:25:02,610 --> 00:24:56,889
eventually I finally convinced them yet

596
00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:02,620
again that you know aspiration was his

597
00:25:07,529 --> 00:25:05,320
problem for being overfed so once I

598
00:25:10,409 --> 00:25:07,539
convinced them that after him you know

599
00:25:13,169 --> 00:25:10,419
be progressing because of it

600
00:25:15,389 --> 00:25:13,179
we took him home and I at that point I

601
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,399
said I'm done Alex I'm done he hasn't

602
00:25:19,259 --> 00:25:17,919
got any vaccinations they didn't want to

603
00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:19,269
me get vaccinations because of his

604
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:21,429
precarious condition hi Roenick lee

605
00:25:24,919 --> 00:25:23,110
because they didn't know his state they

606
00:25:31,019 --> 00:25:24,929
were afraid of a game vaccinations could

607
00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:31,029
Kazem are it just it's a radical you

608
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:36,580
know that they I it just it baffles my

609
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:38,680
mind about medical modern medicine

610
00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:41,950
how they treat everybody and how they

611
00:25:47,370 --> 00:25:44,860
treated him and I feel like I found him

612
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:47,380
in a lot of ways you know because even

613
00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:48,850
though when I got him back and I got him

614
00:25:52,170 --> 00:25:50,740
back on his regiment and he started you

615
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:52,180
know getting Sun and he actually started

616
00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:54,670
recovering Alex he was about to get off

617
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:56,380
the ventilator they're gonna start

618
00:26:02,130 --> 00:25:59,170
teaching him how to speak his heart was

619
00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:02,140
was working phenomenal no signs of heart

620
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:06,670
failure whatsoever he one night the blue

621
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:09,580
had a pulmonary embolism from the

622
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:11,290
previous trauma they had when they

623
00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:13,210
intubated him and being on the

624
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:17,500
ventilator and he he died that's so

625
00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:20,310
that's so I'm sorry to hear that and

626
00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:23,470
that's such a hard thing I've never gone

627
00:26:30,050 --> 00:26:25,060
through that so I can't even pretend to

628
00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:30,060
know what that's like but quite a story

629
00:26:35,790 --> 00:26:34,300
and one last thing his heart when we

630
00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:35,800
took him up because we didn't want him

631
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:37,240
to die inside the hospital room so they

632
00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:38,770
they allowed us to take him up to the

633
00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:41,350
top of the hospital and they had a

634
00:26:48,150 --> 00:26:43,900
garden and he can die you know with

635
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:48,160
dignity and I hooked up to machines his

636
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:51,970
heartbeat for good 10 to 15 minutes even

637
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:53,350
when he wasn't breathing oxygen it was

638
00:26:59,010 --> 00:26:55,390
so strong from the ubiquinol and the pqq

639
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,020
that had given him in the red light LED

640
00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:01,360
therapy that I increases mitochondrial

641
00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:01,660
health

642
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:03,790
I'm the magnesium and everything and um

643
00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:07,840
yeah I think without that pulmonary

644
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:09,280
embolism I think you know and this is

645
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,100
all theoretical I think without him

646
00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:13,840
being overfed or aspirating I think that

647
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:15,280
he possibility he could have still been

648
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:19,210
alive today and you know I do want to

649
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:20,320
thank you know like I said there are

650
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:22,030
some good doctors dr. fan was always the

651
00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:24,010
strongest advocate once it was shown

652
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:25,720
that he could beat it and once you know

653
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,220
the things that we'd work together on

654
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:29,440
actually worked for him and on his

655
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:31,930
medical case study I am listed as an

656
00:27:35,490 --> 00:27:33,730
expert and there is thanks to me you

657
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:35,500
know if anybody end up me which anybody

658
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:37,450
listen their child does have C and C

659
00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:41,250
MEMS don't hesitate to reach out to me

660
00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:45,220
let's talk about that who reaches out to

661
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:47,320
you now at this point I mentioned that

662
00:27:52,019 --> 00:27:48,900
you've helped thousands of people and

663
00:27:55,229 --> 00:27:52,029
you know after reading your book and Liz

664
00:27:57,899 --> 00:27:55,239
to you I reached out I hired you for

665
00:27:59,940 --> 00:27:57,909
consults with my daughter you know who

666
00:28:01,259 --> 00:27:59,950
is having a certain condition I wasn't

667
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:01,269
gonna mention that was my daughter but

668
00:28:07,709 --> 00:28:03,820
there it slipped out that's okay but

669
00:28:11,209 --> 00:28:07,719
who's who's reaching out to you what are

670
00:28:14,669 --> 00:28:11,219
some of the common problems that people

671
00:28:16,649 --> 00:28:14,679
experience that they feel you can help

672
00:28:18,419 --> 00:28:16,659
them with and I guess the flip side or

673
00:28:20,779 --> 00:28:18,429
the other side of that is what problems

674
00:28:24,779 --> 00:28:20,789
can you help people with most frequently

675
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:24,789
um it ranges anywhere from Sipos small

676
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:26,609
intestinal bacterial overgrowth syndrome

677
00:28:33,389 --> 00:28:30,159
any type of reflux whether it's silent

678
00:28:35,489 --> 00:28:33,399
reflux or gastrointestinal reflux you

679
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:35,499
know issues like that all the way to

680
00:28:40,619 --> 00:28:37,570
chronic Lyme disease I've coached people

681
00:28:45,659 --> 00:28:40,629
with chronic Lyme disease I've coached

682
00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:45,669
people with MS it varies you know is

683
00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:47,469
some most people because I'm fix your

684
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:49,989
gut they do come to me for general gut

685
00:28:56,639 --> 00:28:54,129
issues but a lot of people don't realize

686
00:28:59,609 --> 00:28:56,649
is our microbiome has a lot to do with

687
00:29:01,409 --> 00:28:59,619
our health and a lot of these quano

688
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,419
quato communion' conditions whether it's

689
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:03,279
lupus which is more than likely caused

690
00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:05,710
by staph or MS which is more likely

691
00:29:11,959 --> 00:29:08,200
caused by HP and fire reactivation of

692
00:29:14,459 --> 00:29:11,969
herpes vert a viruses like varicella a

693
00:29:16,019 --> 00:29:14,469
lot of that has to do with our gut

694
00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:16,029
health and a lot of them are linked

695
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,059
together with one another so yeah and I

696
00:29:22,649 --> 00:29:20,799
think that's something we we just can't

697
00:29:25,469 --> 00:29:22,659
emphasize enough but people have to dig

698
00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:25,479
in there and kind of find some of these

699
00:29:30,209 --> 00:29:27,190
little threads and then follow them

700
00:29:32,639 --> 00:29:30,219
through but the the gut is really the

701
00:29:36,299 --> 00:29:32,649
the driving engine for so much of your

702
00:29:40,409 --> 00:29:36,309
health and even if some I'd encourage

703
00:29:44,009 --> 00:29:40,419
people if you have issues at all related

704
00:29:45,869 --> 00:29:44,019
to overall health just take a look at

705
00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:45,879
fix your gut and see if there's

706
00:29:51,629 --> 00:29:48,279
something that John has written or

707
00:29:53,369 --> 00:29:51,639
posted that that might give you a window

708
00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:53,379
into what's going on and of course you

709
00:29:56,940 --> 00:29:54,940
know John isn't the sole source and I

710
00:29:58,709 --> 00:29:56,950
think John is not really open to he

711
00:30:01,349 --> 00:29:58,719
references a ton of other people in his

712
00:30:04,229 --> 00:30:01,359
work and he definitely encourages people

713
00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:04,239
to do all the research on your own you

714
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:05,670
know but he's a tremendous

715
00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:08,430
resource here's my next point though in

716
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:09,870
the question I think that a lot of

717
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:12,330
people may be more of a skeptical person

718
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,310
would kind of ask but who's to blame

719
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:16,320
who's to blame for this

720
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:19,830
I mean it's outrageous on one level it's

721
00:30:25,670 --> 00:30:22,970
just outrageous that a doctor would tell

722
00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:25,680
grieving parents that their son is

723
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:29,040
better off dead I mean this isn't a

724
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:31,050
medical issue who's you your value

725
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,240
judgment your moral judgment about you

726
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,120
know how the world works and the balance

727
00:30:42,650 --> 00:30:38,760
of a soul in God's hand know the rest of

728
00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:42,660
that where do they even get the idea

729
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:45,270
that they're in the ballpark to answer

730
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:47,310
that so you know that's one who's to

731
00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:49,740
blame but the other is who's to blame

732
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:53,040
about just the the the big problems we

733
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,200
see in medicine and what are your first

734
00:31:00,080 --> 00:30:58,080
reactions to the who's to blame question

735
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:00,090
well I mean depends if I'm gonna get

736
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:01,410
conspiratorial I guess we could talk

737
00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:04,170
about the Rockefellers the main reason

738
00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:05,940
why we the modern medicine system is the

739
00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:11,220
way it is today or I mean like I've

740
00:31:15,410 --> 00:31:13,080
mentioned before I don't think I think

741
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:15,420
most doctors it's ignorant some doctors

742
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:17,190
agree let's let's stop at the

743
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:18,930
Rockefellers I mean it's interesting

744
00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:22,950
that you start there and actually before

745
00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:24,300
we go to the Rockefellers because I

746
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:25,740
think that sends everyone on their heels

747
00:31:28,690 --> 00:31:27,000
right away I mean well third the

748
00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:28,700
Rockefeller isn't like oh my god

749
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:31,950
conspiracy nut I don't want to hear this

750
00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:34,650
anymore you know let's let's reverse the

751
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:37,560
order let's start at the doctors because

752
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,740
you just said that the doctors are you

753
00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:42,240
know there's some good doctors out there

754
00:31:47,270 --> 00:31:44,790
and most doctors care about patients and

755
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:47,280
that's why they got into the field and

756
00:31:50,150 --> 00:31:47,760
this and that

757
00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:50,160
hey know there's a lot of doctors put on

758
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:51,960
that white coat and forget that they're

759
00:31:57,170 --> 00:31:55,890
human beings or buy into the

760
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,180
that they've been taught all through

761
00:32:01,790 --> 00:31:59,760
medical school and are so indoctrinated

762
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:01,800
and in a certain dogmatic belief that

763
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:04,140
they are totally to blame that doctor

764
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:05,610
that I gave that study and she didn't

765
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:08,490
look at it she is to blame there is no

766
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:11,640
question so just just like that just

767
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:13,980
like the the head of the pediatric you

768
00:32:18,050 --> 00:32:15,750
know and many doctors at a doctor who

769
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:18,060
told me that giving my son that was

770
00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:19,500
sanctioned by dr. fan

771
00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:21,180
milligrams of magnesium would cause

772
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:24,150
hypermagnesemia and he'd become weaker

773
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:25,890
because of that and I just laughed in

774
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:29,460
the doctors face and said nobody and she

775
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:32,460
was like well we give it to pregnant

776
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:33,870
women pre Clancy and I said yeah you

777
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:39,990
give IV magnesium sulfate at doses to -

778
00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:43,140
cause you know muscle relaxant reduction

779
00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:46,680
of blood pressure is too cause that

780
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:48,870
exact symptom me givin 100 milligrams is

781
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:50,610
not gonna harm my son

782
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:52,350
so yeah you are right I will agree with

783
00:32:58,580 --> 00:32:54,390
you Alex some doctors it is downright

784
00:33:02,480 --> 00:32:58,590
greed some doctors it's complete willful

785
00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:02,490
ignorance and stupidity but there are

786
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,800
some doctors who mean well who just

787
00:33:12,550 --> 00:33:06,720
don't know any better and there's some

788
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:12,560
doctors who do try to do a more

789
00:33:17,510 --> 00:33:14,490
combination approach and a grade of

790
00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:17,520
approach and not everyone's gonna get it

791
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:20,820
right you know I or knows I haven't you

792
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:23,430
know if humans will make errors but I

793
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:27,360
agree with you that I mean when doctors

794
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:30,210
go and we'll talk about you know the

795
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:31,740
moderate how the modern structure of

796
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:34,470
medical education came to be but when

797
00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:37,260
doctors go to school you know it's all

798
00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:41,670
state sanctioned AMA sanctioned learning

799
00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:44,870
material they get very few if any

800
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:47,700
education on nutrition which you think

801
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,590
would be very important for a doctor you

802
00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:51,360
know a health you think nutrition would

803
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:53,520
be something but it's not they don't

804
00:33:59,060 --> 00:33:56,690
actually get a lot of pharmacological

805
00:34:01,820 --> 00:33:59,070
knowledge either my grandfather was a

806
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:01,830
pharmacist and he would talk about all

807
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:03,240
the time how doctors would prescribe

808
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:04,890
medicines they interact with each other

809
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:06,930
and they didn't know any better which of

810
00:34:09,619 --> 00:34:08,250
course I guess it's glad that they have

811
00:34:13,369 --> 00:34:09,629
a computer now who could tell them that

812
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:13,379
there's an issue a drug interaction but

813
00:34:18,830 --> 00:34:15,840
yeah I mean the reason I think that

814
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:18,840
doesn't always hit people in a way that

815
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:20,700
they can get it is they know the work

816
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:24,030
that doctors put in in terms of medical

817
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:25,800
school and we know that they're

818
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:27,690
absorbing a lot of stuff and we know

819
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:29,669
that the technology is advancing so

820
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:32,010
rapidly that we kind of empathize with

821
00:34:36,349 --> 00:34:33,450
their situation and

822
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:36,359
I do too I mean you can only know so

823
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:38,970
much you can only work at learning all

824
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:41,129
this stuff so much so that's why I'm

825
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:44,609
always a little bit not quite sure I can

826
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:47,490
dive quite into the you know I get the

827
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:49,290
nutrition thing that they're not given

828
00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:53,099
enough education and nutrition but don't

829
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:55,950
they have a lot that they have to learn

830
00:35:00,560 --> 00:34:57,780
just with all the advances in medicine

831
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:00,570
and all the specializations and isn't

832
00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:02,550
that part of the problem or maybe not I

833
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:05,070
really don't know if I could do it as an

834
00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:06,810
autodidact and they should certainly

835
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:10,220
could do it too got a point there

836
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:14,460
I'm sorry so you think the problems are

837
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:18,060
more systemic in with the institutions

838
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:21,599
is Big Pharma to play is it very much so

839
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:23,460
and that gets into the greed thing I

840
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:25,800
mean I think your example with with the

841
00:35:30,319 --> 00:35:28,680
ulcers is is classic and I you know if

842
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:30,329
you just walk through that I just think

843
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:31,890
through that from a business standpoint

844
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:34,560
you know you're like what would you do

845
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:38,609
if you ran a multi-billion dollar

846
00:35:44,839 --> 00:35:42,240
industry that was driven by antacids for

847
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:44,849
ulcers and all of a sudden some doctor

848
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:47,250
came along and said don't have nothing

849
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,380
to do with that as to do it this other

850
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:52,560
thing over here I mean some part of that

851
00:35:58,700 --> 00:35:56,270
system would want to protect itself from

852
00:36:01,819 --> 00:35:58,710
losing all that money I mean that's just

853
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:01,829
a reality oh very much so say with you

854
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:03,569
know it might not be the researchers at

855
00:36:06,849 --> 00:36:05,010
the bottom but it's pretty sure the

856
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:06,859
people who made the decisions at the top

857
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,170
I mean I definitely agree with you on

858
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,720
that a hundred percent I mean you'll see

859
00:36:15,859 --> 00:36:14,400
it in just many diseases to cut you know

860
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,869
the the supposed cause of ulcerative

861
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:18,000
colitis and Crohn's disease researchers

862
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,510
have known for about twenty odd years

863
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:23,040
2025 years now seems to be Mycobacterium

864
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,170
avium pear tuberculosis which is a micro

865
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:27,599
bacterium found in dairy cattle and

866
00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:30,150
ruminant animals and I've helped a lot

867
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:32,339
of people with some very close personal

868
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:33,630
friends of mine who had ulcerative

869
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:36,210
colitis or Crohn's disease see

870
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:38,910
tremendous recovery just by removing all

871
00:36:43,339 --> 00:36:40,700
ruined animal products out of their diet

872
00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:43,349
instead of taking costly biological

873
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:45,150
agents I mean those costly biological

874
00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:46,920
agents they are worth a lot of money and

875
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:47,270
you got

876
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:50,450
beyond them you know steroids and 5a si

877
00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:52,070
you know you got to be on that for the

878
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:53,990
rest of your life but if you make some

879
00:36:57,580 --> 00:36:55,610
dietary changes maybe take some

880
00:37:00,070 --> 00:36:57,590
supplements maybe some herbs antibiotics

881
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:00,080
sometimes aren't needed for people with

882
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:06,200
severe map dysbiosis but that's the

883
00:37:10,810 --> 00:37:08,930
thing is is instead of you know people

884
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,820
being the choice or get that's the main

885
00:37:14,859 --> 00:37:13,040
problem with all this is there used to

886
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:14,869
be a choice there used to be a choice

887
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:17,050
between allopathic medicine

888
00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:19,850
naturopathy homeopathy and Osteopathy

889
00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:23,900
and then all of a sudden there isn't and

890
00:37:30,730 --> 00:37:27,320
now you're left pretty much with Halle

891
00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:30,740
pathy which is modern medicine and you

892
00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:32,270
know hasta pathy pretty much follows

893
00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:33,950
under that you know osteopaths aren't

894
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:35,660
even taught like they were previously in

895
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:36,800
the past you know the pretty much all

896
00:37:41,980 --> 00:37:39,410
Pathak doctors at this point so that's

897
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:41,990
where it all came from when we talking

898
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:43,310
Willie would tell all the Rockefellers

899
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:45,320
and I I got enough talk about him now

900
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:47,510
I'm sorry that I took you off the

901
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:49,070
Rockefeller thing I don't have any

902
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:52,250
problem with laying that truth bomb out

903
00:37:55,930 --> 00:37:54,170
there so go ahead tell us about the

904
00:37:58,030 --> 00:37:55,940
Rockefellers all right so the

905
00:38:02,050 --> 00:37:58,040
Rockefellers got involved pretty much

906
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:02,060
with wanting to influence the modern

907
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:04,460
medical establishment through many

908
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,350
different methods one was and you know

909
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:07,760
what most pharmacists will tell you this

910
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:12,470
that a lot of drugs are petrochemical

911
00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:14,510
based and of course Rockefellers own

912
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:17,990
standard will now just because a lot of

913
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:19,940
medications are in a lot of things that

914
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,930
we use in our daily lives or

915
00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:22,640
petrochemical base doesn't necessarily

916
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:23,960
mean that they're hundred percent evil

917
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:25,580
it doesn't necessarily mean you know

918
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:27,710
you'll read sometimes online that a lot

919
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:29,090
of drugs have many different benzene

920
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:30,890
rings well yeah well so do there are

921
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:33,890
aromatic amino acids and you would just

922
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:36,470
a lot of those and many protein food

923
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:38,210
sources that you eat on daily basis you

924
00:38:42,580 --> 00:38:39,260
know if you eat turkey you're eating

925
00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:42,590
tryptophan so it's a choice the dose

926
00:38:47,859 --> 00:38:45,020
that makes the poison type aspect on all

927
00:38:49,930 --> 00:38:47,869
this so some of the first drugs that

928
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:49,940
were made if we're not counting the ones

929
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:51,470
that allopathic medicine used previously

930
00:38:56,260 --> 00:38:53,510
in the past like mercury in the form of

931
00:38:59,710 --> 00:38:56,270
cinnabar or lead which we all know are

932
00:39:01,200 --> 00:38:59,720
very toxic metals we'll go with a lot of

933
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,210
the petroleum derivative

934
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:03,760
around the time I'm pretty sure you've

935
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:05,650
heard of Thailand all right of course

936
00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:08,410
acetaminophen well see the benefit isn't

937
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:10,630
even the first drug that was developed

938
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:13,420
the first one that was developed was a

939
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:19,710
scene till ID and it was toxic

940
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:23,440
it caused Methot mcglue B Nia which is

941
00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:26,910
when you have too much iron bounded

942
00:39:30,809 --> 00:39:29,020
hemoglobin in your body and pretty much

943
00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:30,819
you turn blue from cyanosis and you die

944
00:39:37,319 --> 00:39:34,420
it could also cause cancer as well but

945
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:37,329
you know it was used first and then

946
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:40,780
later the derivative of that tylenol

947
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:44,890
which is C diminution which was the

948
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:47,140
metabolite of actin actinolite

949
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:49,930
it's not as poisonous it doesn't quote

950
00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:52,089
impossible likely doesn't cause cancer

951
00:40:01,049 --> 00:39:54,790
but it still can cause liver damage

952
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:01,059
because to detoxify any of these it's II

953
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,460
know I drug or finis eaten which was

954
00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:05,680
also another drug that was from the same

955
00:40:09,539 --> 00:40:07,420
family that was um they call himcall

956
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:09,549
cult or derivative drugs that was that

957
00:40:17,130 --> 00:40:13,390
was um banned to in the late 80s by the

958
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:17,140
FDA acetaminophen still there they can

959
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:19,210
cause a lot of damage by the body so

960
00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:21,430
acetaminophen as most people I have

961
00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:22,990
known you know maybe they see an odd

962
00:40:27,569 --> 00:40:24,760
television report it's been linked to

963
00:40:29,309 --> 00:40:27,579
liver damage it used to be used to say

964
00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:29,319
you could take around five to six grams

965
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:30,280
per day and be safe

966
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,200
they've got that down to around three or

967
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:34,240
four grams now we don't know how much

968
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:35,500
you know eventually they're gonna you

969
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:37,540
know I actually predict eventually that

970
00:40:41,579 --> 00:40:39,430
and I might be wrong about this but I do

971
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:41,589
think acetaminophen will be withdrawn

972
00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:43,569
off the market in the next twenty or

973
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:46,660
thirty years just because it it's it's

974
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:50,609
so bad on the liver but a lot of these

975
00:40:58,980 --> 00:40:55,359
medications you know were petrochemical

976
00:41:01,020 --> 00:40:58,990
derivatives and a lot of that came from

977
00:41:03,089 --> 00:41:01,030
the oil you know Rockefeller had vested

978
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:03,099
interest you know if you're gonna make

979
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:07,450
drugs from petroleum and you are one of

980
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:08,950
the most wealthy people in the world and

981
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:10,660
you own American Standard Oil then where

982
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:13,210
are they going to come get the resources

983
00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:15,050
the raw materials to produce

984
00:41:20,410 --> 00:41:17,870
patience I hear you on that I mean

985
00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:20,420
that's just kind of tricky because we

986
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:22,430
can't always tie all the cause and

987
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:24,230
effects down and I mean they were

988
00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:25,850
involved in a lot of other things too I

989
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:28,550
certainly don't want to get paint a halo

990
00:41:34,090 --> 00:41:31,670
around their head it just seems to me

991
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:34,100
that that the acceleration of that in

992
00:41:38,650 --> 00:41:37,190
the last 30 or 40 years certainly

993
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:38,660
doesn't seem to have anything to do with

994
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:41,210
the Rockefeller influence it seems to me

995
00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:44,390
just to be more of this capitalism and

996
00:41:50,890 --> 00:41:46,340
I'm all for capitalism but kind of this

997
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:50,900
crony capitalism gone awry where it's

998
00:41:56,970 --> 00:41:53,750
hard to not come to the conclusion that

999
00:42:00,220 --> 00:41:56,980
the real agenda is to get everyone on

1000
00:42:02,410 --> 00:42:00,230
medication for life purely for the

1001
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:02,420
economic benefit of that for the

1002
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:04,430
pharmaceutical companies and I agree

1003
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:06,410
with you but to push back on that it is

1004
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:08,450
more than just the petrochemical

1005
00:42:13,870 --> 00:42:11,390
involvement in medicine there's the

1006
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:13,880
function there's education which the

1007
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:16,430
Flexner report with Abraham Flexner

1008
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:18,980
which was put forth by Andrew Carnegie

1009
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:22,250
the Carnegie Foundation and as well as

1010
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:24,910
Rockefellers involvement into it as well

1011
00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:30,130
pretty much destroyed home homeopathy

1012
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:33,230
colleges naturopathic colleges it was a

1013
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,670
report that pretty much laid out how we

1014
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,480
with with working with AMA of how

1015
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:42,560
doctors you know the amount of schooling

1016
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:44,960
that they should get the the trusted

1017
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:47,930
institutions of learning it's in the

1018
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:49,610
different states the ones that met the

1019
00:42:57,330 --> 00:42:53,150
seal of approval for you know by by

1020
00:43:00,250 --> 00:42:57,340
Flexner himself I mean the lecturers

1021
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:00,260
mentor was William Welk who was

1022
00:43:05,710 --> 00:43:04,160
skullenbones yell member who worked with

1023
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:05,720
you know at John Hopkins and John

1024
00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:07,250
Hopkins of course now is what the you

1025
00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:12,220
know biggest hospitals and university

1026
00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:14,500
medical universities in the known world

1027
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:17,780
you know so pretty much any college that

1028
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:20,330
was good enough to be on this list

1029
00:43:24,580 --> 00:43:22,190
medical institution they made it and the

1030
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:24,590
rest did not now I've read the Flexner

1031
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:28,110
report and a lot of it is just

1032
00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:32,730
it isn't horse crap but I mean we could

1033
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,320
even if you will if you want to really

1034
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:36,540
talk about this the sad things that came

1035
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:37,950
out of there if you were to other than

1036
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:40,890
the destruction of other forms of

1037
00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:43,830
Medicine is that African Americans

1038
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,460
really got a poor deal out of the

1039
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:50,640
flexure report because they were pretty

1040
00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:52,710
much left with only two colleges in the

1041
00:43:59,810 --> 00:43:55,670
United States one of them being Howard

1042
00:44:01,820 --> 00:43:59,820
that were able to give degrees to

1043
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:01,830
African Americans to to practice

1044
00:44:06,370 --> 00:44:04,770
medicine because of it so these close

1045
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:06,380
the five other schools that were there

1046
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:09,210
as well as is Flexner believed that

1047
00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:10,710
African Americans were not smart enough

1048
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:12,390
to practice surgery that they should

1049
00:44:26,290 --> 00:44:17,910
only be taught hygiene I mean say what

1050
00:44:29,980 --> 00:44:26,300
you will but I mean we could talk about

1051
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:29,990
homeotic homeopathy colleges like the

1052
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:32,220
Hanuman Institute that was set up and

1053
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,960
that was made in Philadelphia which I

1054
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:35,280
was actually Philadelphia last weekend

1055
00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:36,540
for a vacation and I saw the Hanuman

1056
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:38,460
Institute now it's a standard allopathic

1057
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:43,500
College sadly they sold out but they

1058
00:44:50,420 --> 00:44:47,940
were allowing women to as they should to

1059
00:44:54,370 --> 00:44:50,430
to become doctors and learn lectures and

1060
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:54,380
everything in the mid to late 1800s and

1061
00:44:59,900 --> 00:44:57,660
because of the flexure report because so

1062
00:45:02,720 --> 00:44:59,910
many medical colleges were closed the

1063
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:02,730
rest pretty much just focused on men

1064
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:05,970
becoming doctors so webbing were forced

1065
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:08,910
out hey here's the next thing I wanted

1066
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,920
to just bring up it's a very practical

1067
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:13,440
thing one of the things I get from your

1068
00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:17,610
work is that you do rely on numbers so

1069
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:19,950
on a very practical basis I wanted to

1070
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:23,190
ask you what tests do you recommend that

1071
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:26,550
people do on themselves in order to get

1072
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,630
a handle on where their health is really

1073
00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:32,880
at so we've already said that you know

1074
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:36,150
if you go through your doc in the box

1075
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:39,150
down on down the road you never know

1076
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,920
what's going to happen where do you

1077
00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:43,200
where do you tell people to start in

1078
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:45,780
terms of grounding themselves with the

1079
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:50,040
numbers related to their health well for

1080
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:52,260
most people unless you have integrative

1081
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:53,910
gasps neurologists are not gonna run any

1082
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:57,180
complex gut testing like GI effects or

1083
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,650
anything to really get the number so if

1084
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:00,480
people can really get a good idea of

1085
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:02,250
what their microbiome look looks like

1086
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:03,750
there's just two tests that are offered

1087
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:05,370
that the average person can purchase

1088
00:46:09,730 --> 00:46:07,380
what is a u biome test cost by eighty or

1089
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:09,740
ninety dollars because a standard PCR

1090
00:46:14,570 --> 00:46:13,410
you know genome testing of their gut no

1091
00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:14,580
test is a hundred percent

1092
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:17,820
none of them are but u biome isn't too

1093
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:19,320
terribly bad for the cost and you can

1094
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:21,300
get a good idea of what your gut might

1095
00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:23,970
you know microbiome makeup is the other

1096
00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:26,430
more calcium costly test is the biome

1097
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:29,400
test it's well worth the price for the

1098
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:32,130
test it's about four hundred bucks you

1099
00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:34,410
get a more more in-depth profile you get

1100
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:36,900
um a diet that you can follow that your

1101
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:39,450
gut microbes should like and things that

1102
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,070
should improve your gut health based off

1103
00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:43,440
of your microbiome results my only

1104
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:45,720
caution to biome is that it's run out of

1105
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:48,690
the Los Alamos National Laboratory so

1106
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:51,630
put on my tinfoil hat on again the

1107
00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:53,610
government would have probably access to

1108
00:46:58,670 --> 00:46:57,030
your genome of your microbiome which the

1109
00:47:01,700 --> 00:46:58,680
genome of the microbiome your microbiome

1110
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:01,710
does shift a little bit on a daily basis

1111
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:02,970
depending on your diet because most

1112
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:04,260
people don't eat the same thing every

1113
00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:07,170
day Alex so is that something that you

1114
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,780
recommend John because one of the things

1115
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,880
I want to interject is is doing those

1116
00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:14,400
tests because one of the things that I

1117
00:47:19,070 --> 00:47:15,870
want people to know that they'll find

1118
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:19,080
when they read fix your gut is you're

1119
00:47:24,860 --> 00:47:21,870
very pragmatic I mean you're the kind of

1120
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:24,870
the the dowel will fix your gut you know

1121
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:27,030
I mean if want to spend twenty dollars a

1122
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:27,420
month

1123
00:47:31,310 --> 00:47:29,790
here's the book lays out a budgeted

1124
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:31,320
thing you can do thirty dollars a month

1125
00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:32,790
four dollars a month you know you kind

1126
00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:34,620
of and and you're very practical in

1127
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:36,060
terms of saying okay you know here's

1128
00:47:40,970 --> 00:47:38,700
what you start with first maybe this is

1129
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:40,980
where we should interject here is

1130
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:43,520
someone's listening to this and they say

1131
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:47,220
that might be me if I just wanted to try

1132
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:48,900
something that's going to be good for my

1133
00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:51,960
health anyway that might fix some of

1134
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:54,660
these problems where do I start

1135
00:47:58,700 --> 00:47:56,250
for most people this is a simple change

1136
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,710
of diet I'd recommend pick poco picking

1137
00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:00,240
up the book perfect health diet by Paul

1138
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,660
jamon a reading that book and applying

1139
00:48:07,309 --> 00:48:06,000
the diet I mean there's some things you

1140
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,319
can do for free that I talked about a

1141
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,839
fix your gut getting sunlight for

1142
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:12,000
example is a pretty much free in the

1143
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:13,859
known world is just going outside and

1144
00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:16,380
getting some Sun there's no reason you

1145
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:18,150
talk about that for a minute people will

1146
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:21,660
be surprised than amazed that that the

1147
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:23,339
Sun vitamin D in the middle of the day

1148
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,359
is a good idea in reasonably controlled

1149
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,880
doses yeah I mean you don't wanna get

1150
00:48:33,259 --> 00:48:31,440
sunburned obviously that will lead to

1151
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:33,269
you know oxidative stress will lead to

1152
00:48:37,730 --> 00:48:36,210
cancer cell formation I mean that

1153
00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:37,740
happens with any strong amount of

1154
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,950
oxidative stress but yeah I mean proper

1155
00:48:43,789 --> 00:48:42,240
sunlight exposures one of the few things

1156
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:43,799
that we lack we don't do in the modern

1157
00:48:49,099 --> 00:48:47,130
world our body produces vitamin D and

1158
00:48:52,579 --> 00:48:49,109
actually activates activates vitamin D

1159
00:48:54,769 --> 00:48:52,589
as well through the exposure to UVB

1160
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:54,779
sunlight which you know the closer to

1161
00:48:59,059 --> 00:48:56,819
the equator the higher the UV index the

1162
00:49:02,690 --> 00:48:59,069
more UVB radiation that you're exposed

1163
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:02,700
to and sunlight itself produced

1164
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:04,619
serotonin you know and it's the retinas

1165
00:49:08,210 --> 00:49:06,630
your body produces serotonin it's no

1166
00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:08,220
it's as daytime and it's time to be

1167
00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:09,990
awake and later that serotonin is

1168
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:12,390
methylated if you're healthy into

1169
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:16,230
melatonin which you know is very poor

1170
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,089
day naya antioxidant and helps us sleep

1171
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:20,880
at night and there was a recent study

1172
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:23,670
that came out Alex has separate from

1173
00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:25,710
vitamin D sunlight exposure actually

1174
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:28,200
changes the microbiome to more positive

1175
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:31,740
outlook for most people they will you

1176
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:33,750
know increase Firmicutes which most

1177
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:35,670
people recognize lactobacillus as being

1178
00:49:39,279 --> 00:49:37,319
on the strongest probiotics it is a firm

1179
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:39,289
acute and decrease gram-negative

1180
00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:42,089
bacteria that can cause a lot of

1181
00:49:47,749 --> 00:49:46,470
inflammation similar if-if-if very heavy

1182
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:47,759
amount of population or dysbiotic

1183
00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:51,119
similar to h ploor i so yeah I mean

1184
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:53,670
sunlight is one of the most things

1185
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:55,890
anybody can do for free within reason

1186
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,000
you know I don't want people to get

1187
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:00,240
burnt you know I mean for you know for

1188
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:01,650
me living North Carolina for example at

1189
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:04,470
midday if I'm out aside wearing shorts

1190
00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:06,119
and a short sleeve shirt I can get them

1191
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:08,320
out of vitamin D I need in 15 minutes

1192
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:12,400
it's hot butt and I sweat but I get it

1193
00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:16,630
so what about magnesium for me I have to

1194
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:19,120
tell you magnesium very simple

1195
00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:22,690
inexpensive was like a miracle drug for

1196
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:25,000
me it was one of those things where most

1197
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:26,950
of the time supplements people won't

1198
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:30,310
immediately feel a huge difference I did

1199
00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:33,670
with magnesium and I know you recommend

1200
00:50:37,650 --> 00:50:35,380
it to a lot of your patients

1201
00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:37,660
yeah majority of people are deficient in

1202
00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:39,640
magnesium possibly eighty percent of the

1203
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:41,020
population we don't get in our food

1204
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:42,730
sources as much anymore ancient man

1205
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:44,860
mainly got their magnesium from mineral

1206
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:48,310
water which a lot of us don't consume so

1207
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:49,810
yeah I mean magnesium is one of the

1208
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:51,610
cheapest things I have a good blog on

1209
00:50:56,550 --> 00:50:54,430
magnesium fix your gut calm a 6-part ER

1210
00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:56,560
music I recommend for most people as

1211
00:51:00,270 --> 00:50:57,430
long as they don't have kidney disease

1212
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:00,280
about 200 milligrams per 50 pounds of

1213
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:03,430
body weight I use magnesium a late for

1214
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:04,810
myself there's many different chelation

1215
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:08,530
of magnesium Malley the extra malic acid

1216
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:09,610
and the magnesium works very well

1217
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:11,290
increasing mitochondrial output and

1218
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:13,270
function increases energy so take it in

1219
00:51:16,980 --> 00:51:15,100
the morning you know makes me feel very

1220
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:16,990
good of course you had a suffering from

1221
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:19,420
a fib and one of the main causes of afib

1222
00:51:26,910 --> 00:51:22,800
is possibly magnesium deficiency okay

1223
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:26,920
let's move on if we can I try a lot of

1224
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:29,710
different stuff and have just because

1225
00:51:34,530 --> 00:51:32,290
why wouldn't you you know I mean that

1226
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:34,540
there's a whole other dimension that I

1227
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,550
want to talk about later in terms of the

1228
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:39,520
the spiritual versus the material and

1229
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:41,410
should we even you know what is our

1230
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:44,230
relationship with our body versus our

1231
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:47,050
soul our spirit our mind even our

1232
00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:48,850
consciousness so there's a lot to pull

1233
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:50,980
apart there but I did want to kind of

1234
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:53,830
get personal if I can't just throw out

1235
00:51:59,130 --> 00:51:56,080
some of the stuff that I've experienced

1236
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:59,140
and want to hear your thoughts on it and

1237
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:01,500
the first one I'd start with is breath

1238
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:04,450
you know I'm a long time done yoga for a

1239
00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:05,980
long time and got introduced to breath

1240
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:07,870
work there but you know really in the

1241
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:10,780
last year or two I stumbled across the

1242
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:13,540
wim HOF breathing phenomenal

1243
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:16,360
I mean immediate measurable results that

1244
00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:19,330
just are undeniable anyone can go to wit

1245
00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:21,460
moth breathing and learn about it very

1246
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:22,270
easily and do

1247
00:52:26,070 --> 00:52:23,860
in your first session you'll notice a

1248
00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:26,080
difference and there's other guys out

1249
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:28,540
there too that have breathing programs

1250
00:52:32,430 --> 00:52:30,670
but what do you what the viewer

1251
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:32,440
investigation - breathing what do you

1252
00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:35,290
think I mean yeah I mean I recommend the

1253
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:38,200
Buteyko breathing method myself but

1254
00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:40,570
Hoffs breathing method is fine too

1255
00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:43,000
I actually went out asthma is one of the

1256
00:52:49,590 --> 00:52:46,630
few things that the allergist told me to

1257
00:52:53,550 --> 00:52:49,600
do to help with my asthma was pretty

1258
00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:53,560
much the same type of breathing you know

1259
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:55,150
breathing exercises they did work very

1260
00:53:01,050 --> 00:52:58,140
well for asthma I mean extremely well

1261
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:01,060
the main way it works for digestion I

1262
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:02,170
guess I'm gonna put a little spin on

1263
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:04,900
breathing so that you know I I'm the

1264
00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:06,430
fixer up guys so I'm gonna talk about as

1265
00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:08,470
far as digestion is concern is most

1266
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:09,790
people who have digestion issue

1267
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:11,290
digestive issues they have an

1268
00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:13,120
underactive parasympathetic nervous

1269
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:15,400
system your parasympathetic nervous

1270
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:17,160
system is called your rest and digest

1271
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:19,750
part of your nervous system for a reason

1272
00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:21,850
you know I mean through your vagus nerve

1273
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:24,750
it controls a lot of your MMC or your

1274
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:27,760
migration motor complex the peristalsis

1275
00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:29,410
of the movement of your digestive system

1276
00:53:34,350 --> 00:53:32,680
and proper breathing you know if you're

1277
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,360
breathing you know from your diaphragm

1278
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:36,640
you know proper inhalation of oxygen

1279
00:53:43,050 --> 00:53:39,790
proper exhalation of carbon dioxide it

1280
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,060
will activate the vagus nerve and slow

1281
00:53:48,690 --> 00:53:45,040
breathing will activate the vagus nerve

1282
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:48,700
and in doing so it will increase the

1283
00:53:52,620 --> 00:53:51,220
efficiency of your digestion by

1284
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:52,630
activating the parasympathetic nervous

1285
00:53:57,690 --> 00:53:55,300
system and restoring proper migrating

1286
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:57,700
motor complex or peristalsis waves or

1287
00:54:01,170 --> 00:53:59,410
actions within the digestive system

1288
00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:01,180
because when our bodies are in a state

1289
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:03,640
of over sympathetic nervous system you

1290
00:54:08,490 --> 00:54:06,910
know if you're really anxious you're

1291
00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:08,500
really full of anxiety really full of

1292
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:10,420
adrenaline we're taking a lot of

1293
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:15,100
stimulants like nicotine caffeine and

1294
00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:16,510
you're you know some people I sell for

1295
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:18,460
adrenal fatigue to have this overactive

1296
00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:21,130
sympathetic nervous system state they're

1297
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:22,660
you know most people like that including

1298
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:24,700
myself and probably you to some degree

1299
00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:26,380
Alex we suffered from poor digestion

1300
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:27,580
because of that because we didn't have

1301
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:29,530
proper or parasympathetic proper vagus

1302
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:32,350
nerve regulation you know controlling

1303
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:35,830
our digestive like it should be so yeah

1304
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:37,840
reading does play a big component from a

1305
00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:41,290
digestive side and to helping with that

1306
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:43,870
you know but that wim hof is just an

1307
00:54:49,230 --> 00:54:46,810
interesting character for me first off

1308
00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:49,240
because he's really just a yogi I mean

1309
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:51,670
he's such a yogi and he even talks about

1310
00:54:56,820 --> 00:54:55,330
that a lot but he doesn't come out and

1311
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:56,830
associate it with any of the things that

1312
00:55:01,830 --> 00:54:58,810
he does but anyone who knows yoga well

1313
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:01,840
will get that but he's taken it a lot

1314
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:03,670
further I mean he's a guy who's gone in

1315
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:06,130
and subjected himself to medical tests

1316
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:08,770
where they've administered and a toxin

1317
00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:12,790
bacteria and he's just controlled his

1318
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:14,980
auto immune system which you're not

1319
00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:16,810
supposed to be able to do that's why

1320
00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:19,060
they call it an auto immune system go

1321
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:21,940
ahead but no no but you can't do it that

1322
00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:25,410
you can control it possibly through

1323
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:28,980
activation of the vagus nerve through

1324
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:31,660
grounding and controlling your heart

1325
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:35,530
rate variability you can somewhat reduce

1326
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:37,690
inflammatory size it through you know

1327
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,640
cult thermogenesis for example which

1328
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:41,200
would increase mitochondrial output

1329
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:43,930
which would reduce oxidative stress I

1330
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:46,330
mean there's many different methods of

1331
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:49,030
what HOF does to be able to reduce those

1332
00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:50,620
cytokines like H poor either we both

1333
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:54,280
have produce and his methods do work

1334
00:55:58,020 --> 00:55:55,930
very well for that you are correct

1335
00:56:00,840 --> 00:55:58,030
but here's that here's the twist on that

1336
00:56:03,930 --> 00:56:00,850
that that always gets me is like yeah

1337
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:03,940
maybe that very materialistic scientific

1338
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:06,850
explanation holds and I'm sure there's

1339
00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:08,860
an aspect of that but I think there's

1340
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:11,500
something else at play as well you know

1341
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:13,110
a few years ago I interviewed a guy

1342
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:15,340
really interesting guy's name is dr.

1343
00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:17,530
William Bengston and the doctor he's not

1344
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:20,140
a medical doctor but he's a very highly

1345
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:22,210
regarded sociologist and he really

1346
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:24,910
understands the scientific method and

1347
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,170
I'll kind of make this story kind of

1348
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:28,240
short because so many people have

1349
00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:29,680
already listened to the interview or a

1350
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:31,900
familiar with his work but here's a guy

1351
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:36,490
who stumbles across healing hands on

1352
00:56:41,070 --> 00:56:39,130
healing and he's just a scientist so

1353
00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:41,080
he's just curious he's like wow I never

1354
00:56:44,730 --> 00:56:42,430
I never thought that would work

1355
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:44,740
and he's working with this guy who is

1356
00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:46,600
the healer and it's almost like a

1357
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:48,460
cocktail party thing the guy says yeah I

1358
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:49,390
can he

1359
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:51,490
people just by putting my hands over him

1360
00:56:56,970 --> 00:56:54,070
Reiki well fast forward to the to the

1361
00:57:00,840 --> 00:56:56,980
point where Bankston is actually doing a

1362
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:00,850
laboratory experiment with mice who've

1363
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:03,160
been injected with cancer and none of

1364
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:05,860
these mice ever live past twenty seven

1365
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:08,290
days thousands and thousands of these

1366
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:12,130
and he cures these mice and he says at

1367
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:13,510
some point I had to say that they're

1368
00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:15,010
cured they weren't in remission they

1369
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:18,100
were actually cured so we can say Reiki

1370
00:57:25,470 --> 00:57:21,640
or we can put any term we want on it we

1371
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:25,480
don't know what's going on when we cross

1372
00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:29,650
into this other aspect of the whole

1373
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:31,870
being you know and but we don't know

1374
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:35,320
from a you know if consciousness is

1375
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:37,480
fundamental and as that a creating our

1376
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:39,190
material world all the rest this so I'm

1377
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:41,230
always a little bit hesitant when people

1378
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:43,570
jump in like with women they go oh well

1379
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:45,310
that's because he's doing this and this

1380
00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:48,430
and that no man he's just he's just some

1381
00:57:53,070 --> 00:57:50,860
crazy Dutch guy who was experiencing

1382
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:53,080
unbelievable grief because his wife had

1383
00:57:57,060 --> 00:57:55,090
suicided and he's walking along the

1384
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,070
street and he says dammit I don't know

1385
00:58:01,020 --> 00:57:59,200
what to do with my head I don't know

1386
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:01,030
what to do with my life there's a frozen

1387
00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:03,010
lake there I'm not gonna drown myself

1388
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:05,020
but I'm gonna go jump in the lake and he

1389
00:58:08,550 --> 00:58:06,460
goes and jumps in the lake and you know

1390
00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:08,560
what that little voice inside his head

1391
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:10,660
stops even if it's only for a minute it

1392
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:12,610
stopped and he came out and he felt

1393
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:14,830
better and he said I gotta follow this

1394
00:58:19,770 --> 00:58:17,650
so yeah here's a guy who isn't really

1395
00:58:21,930 --> 00:58:19,780
into the medical stuff he just says I

1396
00:58:25,260 --> 00:58:21,940
can do this and I can teach other people

1397
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:25,270
to do this and I wonder if we miss

1398
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:28,720
something when we try and get too

1399
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:31,420
technical with the slide rule science

1400
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:32,710
you know the slide real science where

1401
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:34,120
we're just going well it must be this

1402
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:36,760
must be this must be this when at the

1403
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:38,860
edges we realize how little we don't

1404
00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:41,320
know when we really look at the broader

1405
00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:44,080
spectrum of be it banks then or what wim

1406
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:45,880
HOF does or you know somebody who has a

1407
00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:47,110
near-death experience

1408
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:49,660
and as part of the experience goes

1409
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:52,210
through a healing of a some other

1410
00:58:56,790 --> 00:58:54,040
ailment you know I mean that there's all

1411
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:56,800
sorts of those stories there go on and

1412
00:59:01,650 --> 00:58:59,440
on about them thoughts on that well

1413
00:59:03,099 --> 00:59:01,660
doctors I mean they believe that if you

1414
00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:03,109
can make yourself sick like

1415
00:59:06,930 --> 00:59:04,940
I think it's called like a taco soup oh

1416
00:59:09,339 --> 00:59:06,940
cardiomyopathy a broken heart syndrome

1417
00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:09,349
where the heart can weaken itself

1418
00:59:13,930 --> 00:59:12,859
literally from severe mental stress so

1419
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:13,940
they believe in that but yet they don't

1420
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:16,160
believe that possibly from a spiritual

1421
00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:18,230
standpoint or a metaphysical standpoint

1422
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:19,190
or whatever you want to call that a

1423
00:59:25,089 --> 00:59:21,890
person could will themselves to get

1424
00:59:27,249 --> 00:59:25,099
better I've noted to happen and it's

1425
00:59:30,370 --> 00:59:27,259
happened you know and I I do try to look

1426
00:59:31,989 --> 00:59:30,380
at things as an illogical mindset don't

1427
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:31,999
get me wrong but I'm no I know with your

1428
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,609
past discussion that you had with Jesus

1429
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:36,559
live there yeah he was pretty much like

1430
00:59:40,329 --> 00:59:38,450
a science science science science you

1431
00:59:43,299 --> 00:59:40,339
know if he if it if you go against that

1432
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:43,309
then you know he will lead it to the

1433
00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:48,200
dark ages he's a practicing magician

1434
00:59:53,979 --> 00:59:50,630
suppose who's conjuring spirits to do

1435
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:53,989
his bidding so but that's the thing is

1436
00:59:58,839 --> 00:59:57,440
is I gotta serve some master you know

1437
01:00:00,849 --> 00:59:58,849
maybe he's getting someone you know

1438
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:00,859
whispering in his head to pull T to pull

1439
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:02,450
the stuff that he does at transhumanists

1440
01:00:08,529 --> 01:00:05,210
is gonna save us all you know and hey I

1441
01:00:09,999 --> 01:00:08,539
just you got a look at it both way

1442
01:00:12,249 --> 01:00:10,009
there's so much like you're saying and I

1443
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:12,259
agree with you like with Abel I try from

1444
01:00:16,450 --> 01:00:14,630
from from my logical mind to try to give

1445
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:16,460
a medical conclusion of why he should

1446
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:18,049
have been able to spit out that too but

1447
01:00:22,989 --> 01:00:20,450
there is none right there is none so

1448
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:22,999
spiritually he through manifestation of

1449
01:00:28,299 --> 01:00:24,710
will or whatever you want to call it

1450
01:00:31,420 --> 01:00:28,309
happened and I accept it for what it is

1451
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:31,430
it's a miracle I'm sorry if that offends

1452
01:00:36,089 --> 01:00:33,529
anybody that simply what it was there's

1453
01:00:40,539 --> 01:00:36,099
no rational logical explanation for it

1454
01:00:42,489 --> 01:00:40,549
and these things happen on a daily basis

1455
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:42,499
and we there's no you know and that

1456
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:43,849
that's what you're talking about the

1457
01:00:48,819 --> 01:00:46,609
stuff that's on the fringe that may

1458
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:48,829
never have an explanation you know I

1459
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:51,890
always like this story and I know it to

1460
01:00:55,839 --> 01:00:53,690
be true because I heard it from Andrew

1461
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:55,849
while you know the famous complementary

1462
01:01:01,029 --> 01:00:58,130
medicine guy super rich guy from Harvard

1463
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:01,039
who has an interesting connection with

1464
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:03,170
Timothy Leary and all that if anyone

1465
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:04,730
wants to go back and look he kind of is

1466
01:01:11,799 --> 01:01:08,390
the guy who outed Timothy Leary and Ram

1467
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:11,809
Dass for using drugs off using LSD off

1468
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:15,170
campus I digress though anyways Andrew

1469
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:16,520
Weil is going on to be

1470
01:01:21,550 --> 01:01:19,060
come one of the most famous

1471
01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:21,560
complementary medicine guys and has kind

1472
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,500
of turned that into a whole huge

1473
01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:25,520
industry for himself and for other

1474
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:27,350
people and it seems like a good guy but

1475
01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:31,250
he says what he does consistently all

1476
01:01:37,810 --> 01:01:34,760
the time with his medical students is he

1477
01:01:40,210 --> 01:01:37,820
says go to the library and I want you to

1478
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:40,220
just go to the medical journals and

1479
01:01:48,010 --> 01:01:44,330
randomly pull off a study a major study

1480
01:01:51,310 --> 01:01:48,020
where it was a life kind of threatening

1481
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:51,320
kind of situation and I want you to look

1482
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:53,690
for cases of spontaneous healing that

1483
01:02:00,010 --> 01:01:56,570
aren't explained and he goes you'll find

1484
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:00,020
him under the category of placebo effect

1485
01:02:06,510 --> 01:02:03,110
or whatever but in every one of those

1486
01:02:09,070 --> 01:02:06,520
studies you'll find spontaneous healing

1487
01:02:11,890 --> 01:02:09,080
well what are we saying there we don't

1488
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:11,900
understand what the hell happened these

1489
01:02:16,180 --> 01:02:13,280
are people in the control group who

1490
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:16,190
didn't get any treatment better who got

1491
01:02:23,470 --> 01:02:20,720
better and so m'ling these two things at

1492
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:23,480
the same time because John I'm totally

1493
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:25,550
down and I hope people get that you know

1494
01:02:30,550 --> 01:02:28,010
I'm taking the magnesium I'm doing all

1495
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:30,560
this other stuff to try and improve my

1496
01:02:37,150 --> 01:02:33,410
chances for experiencing the best life I

1497
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:37,160
can at the same time I'm I'm humbled by

1498
01:02:45,820 --> 01:02:41,330
the thought of Who am I really

1499
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:45,830
and what is my larger connection to

1500
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:48,250
consciousness what is my larger

1501
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:50,960
spirituality and I just think it's

1502
01:02:55,090 --> 01:02:53,570
that's the challenge is to jump over and

1503
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:55,100
squeeze this one as tight as you can and

1504
01:03:01,480 --> 01:02:57,650
then jump over the other one and hold on

1505
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:01,490
to that as well because it just seems to

1506
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:04,400
be what's at play I agree I mean that's

1507
01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:07,910
why I'm not a hundred percent for things

1508
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:10,430
that are can be explained logically and

1509
01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:12,170
I'm not a hundred percent for things

1510
01:03:16,660 --> 01:03:14,510
that are strictly spiritual either I'm

1511
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:16,670
kind of a mixture in the middle and some

1512
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:18,170
people hate that with a lot of my

1513
01:03:23,710 --> 01:03:21,350
beliefs I'm kind of you know thinking

1514
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:23,720
that you know both sides are samara to

1515
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:26,510
it but I do agree for you with you that

1516
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:29,710
Alex said a lot of people try to

1517
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:31,570
just discredit things that they can't

1518
01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:33,430
explain just because I can't explain

1519
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:35,980
them okay let me come back to the

1520
01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:37,540
practical rules because I have a couple

1521
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:39,640
other ones that I want to just throw on

1522
01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:42,490
the table there one is fasting

1523
01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:45,220
intermittent fasting again for me this

1524
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:46,990
is something I just kind of ran across

1525
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:50,320
stumbled across and wound up trying it

1526
01:03:55,260 --> 01:03:53,710
and found it to be just really effective

1527
01:03:57,859 --> 01:03:55,270
for me and there seems to be some good

1528
01:04:01,050 --> 01:03:57,869
science behind it and that's like

1529
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:01,060
controlling all your eating to in a like

1530
01:04:05,609 --> 01:04:03,849
a five or a six hour window during the

1531
01:04:07,710 --> 01:04:05,619
day and they're not so worried about

1532
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:07,720
portions or what you eat but just

1533
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:10,390
keeping it inside that window to give

1534
01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:12,970
your digestive system a chance to rest

1535
01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:15,640
otherwise any thoughts on intermittent

1536
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:18,190
fasting when using the right

1537
01:04:21,630 --> 01:04:20,109
circumstances for the right people can

1538
01:04:24,359 --> 01:04:21,640
make huge benefits in their health just

1539
01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:24,369
like you but when using correctly in the

1540
01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:27,070
wrong person let's say someone has taxed

1541
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:28,900
adrenal glands except from severe

1542
01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:31,810
adrenal fatigue then arm in a fasting

1543
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:34,080
the neat upregulation need of cortisol

1544
01:04:38,670 --> 01:04:36,310
in a journal and that's produced because

1545
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:38,680
of fasting could make them feel and make

1546
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:42,400
them much much worse so really just

1547
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:43,390
depends on the person for you

1548
01:04:47,099 --> 01:04:44,910
intermittent fasting worked very well

1549
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:47,109
for me because of the state of health

1550
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:49,030
that I was in it did not work for me at

1551
01:04:54,089 --> 01:04:52,990
all and I couldn't take it and it's like

1552
01:04:57,030 --> 01:04:54,099
that was some people I've coached with

1553
01:04:58,620 --> 01:04:57,040
some people ketogenic diets or in a

1554
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:58,630
minute fasting you know or cyclic

1555
01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:01,119
ketogenic diets any of those worked very

1556
01:05:07,770 --> 01:05:04,390
well and they thrive on them and then

1557
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:07,780
other people it destroys them or it

1558
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:09,910
makes them ill they were not really too

1559
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:11,530
much ill from going on them on the first

1560
01:05:16,829 --> 01:05:13,770
place and they go in them sometimes

1561
01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:16,839
incorrectly sometimes correctly and it

1562
01:05:21,329 --> 01:05:19,270
leads them to become ill so that's why

1563
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:21,339
I've always said and there's why there's

1564
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:24,910
no fix your gut diet quote unquote no

1565
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:27,760
one diet is perfect for every human

1566
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:31,210
being we're too different or Jennifer

1567
01:05:35,579 --> 01:05:33,310
genetically or different epigenetically

1568
01:05:37,950 --> 01:05:35,589
or microbiomes are different it's just

1569
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:37,960
impossible now there are some diets that

1570
01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:39,910
are probably better for for some than

1571
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:41,140
others I mentioned the perfect health

1572
01:05:44,610 --> 01:05:42,700
diet but for some people it may be too

1573
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:44,620
many carbohydrates

1574
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:47,140
I hate I love the diet for health I

1575
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:50,050
would hate the name you know as far as

1576
01:05:57,390 --> 01:05:53,530
the being a perfect diet for health but

1577
01:06:00,780 --> 01:05:57,400
you know diet is such a individual thing

1578
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:00,790
it really depends on the person sure no

1579
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:03,370
I think that's really good advice and I

1580
01:06:10,050 --> 01:06:05,650
would just add for what it's worth my

1581
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:10,060
experience is that what the fast five

1582
01:06:14,490 --> 01:06:12,460
the five hour window thing and I'm not

1583
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:14,500
strictly hold of the five all I do about

1584
01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:18,940
six hours or so it just freed me up it

1585
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:20,950
was like I had been brainwashed into

1586
01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:23,110
this thing that you know breakfast is

1587
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:25,060
the most important meal of the day and

1588
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:27,130
as soon as you get up you have to eat

1589
01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:28,930
and I was never hungry in the morning

1590
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:31,510
but I was like okay I guess that's what

1591
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:34,240
I'm supposed to do you know and then at

1592
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:36,130
night you know the whole ritual around

1593
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:37,930
dinner and stuff like that and it looks

1594
01:06:45,470 --> 01:06:42,010
like it just I so naturally fell into a

1595
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:45,480
diet that just felt better for me by

1596
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:48,640
someone saying here's some data you

1597
01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:54,130
might want to take in about eating just

1598
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,680
inside of this window so I love the way

1599
01:07:00,480 --> 01:06:58,480
you processed it though and I totally

1600
01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:00,490
accept that and you just know a lot more

1601
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:02,680
than I do about this stuff but I wanted

1602
01:07:07,890 --> 01:07:05,650
to throw that I am fan of fasting I can

1603
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:07,900
help a lot for many medical conditions

1604
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:09,310
there are a lot of studies that show

1605
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:11,770
that you know there's a lot of studies

1606
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:12,730
that show that fast he could be very

1607
01:07:16,650 --> 01:07:14,050
beneficial for the immune system and

1608
01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:16,660
very very beneficial for longevity but

1609
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:18,550
there are possibly some studies that may

1610
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:20,410
be around the corner in the future that

1611
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:24,610
fasting when done into some people may

1612
01:07:29,010 --> 01:07:26,230
trigger a condition in the body where

1613
01:07:33,210 --> 01:07:29,020
the body thinks it's starving and that

1614
01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:33,220
may be detrimental to healing so you

1615
01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:35,470
know it just depends on the person you

1616
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:36,220
know if you want to learn about

1617
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:38,170
intermittent fasting in cyclic ketogenic

1618
01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:39,370
diets I wrote a good blog about

1619
01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:41,140
ketogenic diets I'll fix your gut the

1620
01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:43,120
bulletproof diet is a good example of a

1621
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:44,800
cyclic ketogenic diet you know Dave

1622
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:49,210
Asprey I'm not against them I just think

1623
01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:50,890
with everything would diet it's very

1624
01:07:53,730 --> 01:07:52,390
personal and people should be well

1625
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:53,740
informed and try to figure out exactly

1626
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:56,410
what diet works for them I'll tell you

1627
01:08:00,240 --> 01:07:57,610
one thing I want to hit

1628
01:08:01,710 --> 01:08:00,250
and I don't want to ruffle too many

1629
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:01,720
feathers and I certainly don't want to

1630
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:03,250
ruffle your feathers you're such a great

1631
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:04,960
guy and you do such important work here

1632
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:09,970
but I do feel like sometimes there's two

1633
01:08:13,470 --> 01:08:12,130
parts of the free pass thing you know

1634
01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:13,480
it's like one I don't want to give a

1635
01:08:17,309 --> 01:08:15,220
free pass to people who don't deserve it

1636
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:17,319
I heard you talk on weed you know

1637
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:20,290
marijuana a bunch of times and hey I'm

1638
01:08:26,849 --> 01:08:24,430
all about the benefits of cannabis oils

1639
01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:26,859
and all the rest of this stuff but Jesus

1640
01:08:31,980 --> 01:08:28,780
Christ I don't care a lot of people who

1641
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:31,990
are now becoming addicted dependent

1642
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:35,530
substance abuse problem with marijuana I

1643
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:37,210
don't think it's ever really increased I

1644
01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:39,010
mean I would push back on that and I

1645
01:08:43,020 --> 01:08:41,190
also push back what's the most common

1646
01:08:43,650 --> 01:08:43,030
psychoactive drug consumed an entire

1647
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:43,660
world

1648
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:46,410
I don't know alcohol no caffeine

1649
01:08:52,490 --> 01:08:50,410
caffeine okay but yeah I'm not sure that

1650
01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:52,500
it I'm not sure the caffeine really

1651
01:08:58,710 --> 01:08:57,160
measures up in the same way let's talk

1652
01:09:02,039 --> 01:08:58,720
about it why not

1653
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:02,049
I'm can let's talk about why caffeine is

1654
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:04,210
psychoactive has killed people there

1655
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:05,650
have been people have died from caffeine

1656
01:09:09,630 --> 01:09:06,970
overdoses there have been people who've

1657
01:09:11,550 --> 01:09:09,640
died from marijuana use it's extremely

1658
01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:11,560
rare you know some people have died from

1659
01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:13,420
you know also being under the influence

1660
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,270
while driving I do admit that but

1661
01:09:22,349 --> 01:09:19,120
caffeine you know there are overdoses a

1662
01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:22,359
lot of them not you know on purpose

1663
01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:23,980
overdosing there are a lot of people who

1664
01:09:28,559 --> 01:09:26,950
get you know arrhythmia and conditions

1665
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:28,569
where they have to be treated for

1666
01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:30,430
caffeine you know too much drinking too

1667
01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:31,960
much caffeine

1668
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:35,680
so any caffeine is addicting is it not I

1669
01:09:40,349 --> 01:09:38,319
mean I don't know I don't I drink like I

1670
01:09:43,230 --> 01:09:40,359
never drink caffeine and I just started

1671
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:43,240
drinking like one cup a day just but but

1672
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:45,010
taking that out of it I mean I just take

1673
01:09:50,490 --> 01:09:47,290
a common-sense approach and that is this

1674
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:50,500
look most of us have smoked weed and we

1675
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:51,880
know the effects just like we know the

1676
01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:54,880
effects of alcohol and we know the

1677
01:10:00,270 --> 01:09:57,490
effects of smoking weed every day of

1678
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:00,280
getting high every day hey man it is not

1679
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:04,960
good every day if you're getting high

1680
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:06,970
multiple times a day you have a

1681
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,460
substance abuse problem it's it's like

1682
01:10:13,890 --> 01:10:11,920
we want to give people a free pass

1683
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:13,900
or say there so that it's like no man

1684
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:16,540
it's like anything else that becomes a

1685
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:19,449
problem in your life it's it's measured

1686
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:22,449
by can you just walk away from it or do

1687
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:24,010
you do you need it and if you're using

1688
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:26,050
it every day multiple times a day then

1689
01:10:30,419 --> 01:10:28,449
it's got more control on you than you

1690
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:30,429
have on it what would you say the same

1691
01:10:34,530 --> 01:10:32,290
thing about caffeine or nicotine there's

1692
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:34,540
millions of people around the world who

1693
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,910
are dependent on it caffeine can produce

1694
01:10:40,140 --> 01:10:38,800
some odd form of drug dependence it

1695
01:10:41,939 --> 01:10:40,150
causes headaches and withdrawal some

1696
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:41,949
people can it's very hard difficult for

1697
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:44,770
them to get off a caffeine I'm just

1698
01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:46,449
playing devil's advocate here I agree

1699
01:10:50,010 --> 01:10:48,040
with you if there are a lot of people

1700
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:50,020
who use marijuana incorrectly and it

1701
01:10:54,290 --> 01:10:52,960
leads them to not contribute as much as

1702
01:10:56,729 --> 01:10:54,300
society as they should

1703
01:10:58,650 --> 01:10:56,739
just like other sorry I don't care about

1704
01:11:00,120 --> 01:10:58,660
society I don't care for their own

1705
01:11:01,470 --> 01:11:00,130
personal life you know better or

1706
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:01,480
betterment of themselves is that better

1707
01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:05,170
maybe you know III think back to the the

1708
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:07,030
Joe Rogan episode with Graham Hancock I

1709
01:11:10,050 --> 01:11:08,350
don't know if you've ever seen it but

1710
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:10,060
it's like a classic you know Graham

1711
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,520
Hancock who is this incredible author

1712
01:11:16,770 --> 01:11:15,040
and has produced unbelievably great work

1713
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,780
over the years and it's just a brilliant

1714
01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:19,360
guy no no doubt about it and he's there

1715
01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:23,340
talking about his 20 year dependency on

1716
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:25,420
marijuana and he said to how it really

1717
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:27,130
had gotten out of control for him and

1718
01:11:32,340 --> 01:11:29,050
then he had gone down and he had done

1719
01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:32,350
ayahuasca and the ayahuasca spirit had

1720
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:35,679
fought with the spirit of marihuana and

1721
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:38,710
who people who are in the shamanistic

1722
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:41,050
kind of world say yeah these two spirits

1723
01:11:44,490 --> 01:11:42,790
have long known to be kind of feuding

1724
01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:44,500
and this and that and anyways the

1725
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:47,500
ayahuasca spirit says hey you know you

1726
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:49,449
got to stop that it's it's interfering

1727
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:51,610
with your life so he comes back and he

1728
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,730
fires up the the vaporizer and he can't

1729
01:11:58,620 --> 01:11:56,560
do it he just can't do it and he walks

1730
01:12:01,650 --> 01:11:58,630
away and he just like wow you know I

1731
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:01,660
really see that I had misused that

1732
01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:04,150
substance and I had come out of a line

1733
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,500
with it from a spiritual perspective

1734
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:07,840
well I don't know if all that's

1735
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:09,310
I don't know about the spirits I'm

1736
01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:12,130
inclined to think there's some reality

1737
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:15,340
to all that but at the same time and I

1738
01:12:19,820 --> 01:12:17,500
am inclined to believe that there's some

1739
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:19,830
reality to that I believe that we are

1740
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:23,350
engaging with something more when we

1741
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:25,570
enter that extended

1742
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:28,110
this realm that is associated with

1743
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:30,610
psychedelics like marijuana and

1744
01:12:36,089 --> 01:12:33,610
psychedelics like ayahuasca and we are

1745
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:36,099
in this kind of alternative world and I

1746
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:37,570
think people who don't appreciate that

1747
01:12:42,270 --> 01:12:39,449
and don't come at it at least with some

1748
01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:42,280
respect of that have a have a greater

1749
01:12:50,339 --> 01:12:47,790
risk of becoming the dependent becoming

1750
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:50,349
having an attachment that might not be

1751
01:12:53,819 --> 01:12:52,570
the most positive thing in their life I

1752
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:53,829
don't know what do you think about that

1753
01:13:01,109 --> 01:12:57,520
but no I agree I agree with you but all

1754
01:13:03,359 --> 01:13:01,119
I'm saying is we marijuana has a lot of

1755
01:13:04,919 --> 01:13:03,369
medical benefits CBD oil it does trust

1756
01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:04,929
me I've used it in my own personal life

1757
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:07,329
of people my coach my good friend of my

1758
01:13:13,290 --> 01:13:11,590
business partner his his sister who is

1759
01:13:14,669 --> 01:13:13,300
alive today I know not got to my own

1760
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:14,679
horn I guess cuz I mean he's he says

1761
01:13:19,169 --> 01:13:16,329
it's I guess I could say any we said it

1762
01:13:23,010 --> 01:13:19,179
before but her seizures stopped

1763
01:13:24,089 --> 01:13:23,020
dramatically because of CBD oil so and

1764
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:24,099
don't get me wrong I understand what

1765
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:25,810
you're saying completely that there are

1766
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:28,630
people who will abuse marijuana or use

1767
01:13:33,689 --> 01:13:31,300
it you know it's natural man is the same

1768
01:13:37,589 --> 01:13:33,699
with psilocybin mushrooms is it alcohol

1769
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:37,599
people will use substances incorrectly

1770
01:13:43,859 --> 01:13:41,050
and use it and it's destroying their

1771
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:43,869
lives like I mean I guess maybe I didn't

1772
01:13:49,109 --> 01:13:46,239
talk about that with Greg per se because

1773
01:13:51,410 --> 01:13:49,119
its THC but I do understand that there

1774
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:51,420
have been marijuana has destroyed

1775
01:13:58,500 --> 01:13:54,280
people's lives and kept them from their

1776
01:14:00,089 --> 01:13:58,510
own personal potential I definitely

1777
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:00,099
agree with you on that

1778
01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:01,510
but I do think it has a very strong

1779
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:04,300
medicinal municipal purpose to that

1780
01:14:09,419 --> 01:14:05,650
stuff like alcohol alcohol has no

1781
01:14:11,790 --> 01:14:09,429
municipal purpose really whatsoever

1782
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:11,800
except for maybe wine polyphenols but

1783
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:13,329
you can get that you know the other

1784
01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:16,300
polyphenols from other sources spy hard

1785
01:14:21,089 --> 01:14:19,060
liquor has none other than it works very

1786
01:14:27,569 --> 01:14:21,099
well is a good disinfected and

1787
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:27,579
antiseptic but I mean that's my like the

1788
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:29,770
thing is is I get what you're saying and

1789
01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:31,780
I will back you up on that and agree

1790
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:33,400
with you but I also do think it has a

1791
01:14:36,979 --> 01:14:36,159
strong medicinal purpose thing is is you

1792
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:36,989
can't

1793
01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:39,910
it's like ayahuasca I've known

1794
01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:43,500
most people don't admit the ayahuasca

1795
01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:45,820
they did they know anybody had that's

1796
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:47,560
destroyed their lives you know Mona

1797
01:14:52,860 --> 01:14:49,710
people have got stories of LSD you know

1798
01:14:54,510 --> 01:14:52,870
destroying lives and stuff but I'm not

1799
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:54,520
gonna go into details by no soul and

1800
01:15:02,280 --> 01:14:56,530
personally who went on ayahuasca trip

1801
01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:02,290
and they weren't really the same in a

1802
01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:06,220
positive sense after that again I don't

1803
01:15:11,250 --> 01:15:07,630
know a lot of people had many positive

1804
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:11,260
results with it too but it's with

1805
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:12,970
everything you know there's positives

1806
01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:14,770
and negatives every single thing that we

1807
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:16,270
come in contact with with everything

1808
01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:17,920
that we ingest with everything that we

1809
01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:21,340
do and you're right marijuana is no

1810
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:23,740
difference for some it could help them

1811
01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:26,110
tremendously for others it could destroy

1812
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:28,390
their life I guess that's what you're

1813
01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:30,040
trying to get at is you want me to at

1814
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:32,020
least no no I think you've totally I

1815
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:34,810
mean you've totally given your position

1816
01:15:40,170 --> 01:15:37,600
in a really articulate way and I yeah

1817
01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:40,180
I'm not trying to pick on people who

1818
01:15:45,570 --> 01:15:42,760
smoke weed and I get the whole thing and

1819
01:15:47,820 --> 01:15:45,580
hey there's no comparison between you

1820
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:47,830
know weed and alcohol if you just had to

1821
01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:50,770
pick one to use in moderation pick weed

1822
01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:53,080
there's just no there's no question you

1823
01:15:58,020 --> 01:15:55,840
know but I'm always a little bit leery

1824
01:16:00,330 --> 01:15:58,030
when I get into these discussions and

1825
01:16:02,730 --> 01:16:00,340
people immediately well I do you know

1826
01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:02,740
lesser of evil kind of thing it's like

1827
01:16:08,610 --> 01:16:05,460
how about having a healthy approach to

1828
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:08,620
just consciousness and where you take it

1829
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:11,020
and what you do with it and what your

1830
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:13,120
purpose is but you're you're all about

1831
01:16:18,660 --> 01:16:16,570
that are there any other vices out there

1832
01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:18,670
that that you feel like maybe we've

1833
01:16:22,350 --> 01:16:20,020
aping is another one that's really

1834
01:16:25,230 --> 01:16:22,360
popular and vaping is not good that's

1835
01:16:27,390 --> 01:16:25,240
just I mean nicotine does have some

1836
01:16:29,730 --> 01:16:27,400
possible improvements to mitochondrial

1837
01:16:32,730 --> 01:16:29,740
function on occasion in neuro and in

1838
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:32,740
memory and neurological function but I

1839
01:16:35,850 --> 01:16:33,850
mean most of the chemicals in your

1840
01:16:37,290 --> 01:16:35,860
standard vape you know like you wouldn't

1841
01:16:39,150 --> 01:16:37,300
want to breathe in polyethylene glycol

1842
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:39,160
you probably don't want to to deal with

1843
01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:41,530
the more quote-unquote organic vaping

1844
01:16:48,690 --> 01:16:46,120
like glycerin but I mean there is some

1845
01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:48,700
minor medicinal benefit to nicotine use

1846
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:50,380
when using this moderation but it's like

1847
01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:52,450
everything else you know it's there's

1848
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:53,740
medicinal benefit too

1849
01:16:58,350 --> 01:16:56,050
use of opioids if you're in severe pain

1850
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:58,360
that being said you know you don't want

1851
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:02,080
to go and you know inject heroin but you

1852
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:04,180
know when you use properly even caffeine

1853
01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:05,830
you know even though I just harped on it

1854
01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:07,540
for a while it can increases alertness

1855
01:17:11,370 --> 01:17:09,460
increases memory and cognitive functions

1856
01:17:12,990 --> 01:17:11,380
it does have some possible health

1857
01:17:16,410 --> 01:17:13,000
benefits specially when consumed in the

1858
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:16,420
form of coffee so it just to each their

1859
01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:19,120
own you know for some people marijuana

1860
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:21,100
can cause problems like cannabis

1861
01:17:25,740 --> 01:17:24,010
hyperemesis syndrome where a person who

1862
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:25,750
smokes marijuana some of the cabinets

1863
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,280
can cause them to vomit

1864
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:29,440
very violently and they should not ever

1865
01:17:34,290 --> 01:17:31,930
smoke weed you know so there are

1866
01:17:36,270 --> 01:17:34,300
instances where people should medically

1867
01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:36,280
you know stay away from weed and there's

1868
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:38,140
some people medically should use it it

1869
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:40,570
depends on whether you're using it for

1870
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:42,730
creativity properly or exploration

1871
01:17:47,370 --> 01:17:45,370
properly or if you're just using it to

1872
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,380
escape the world and get high if you're

1873
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:49,120
using it for that I don't recommend

1874
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:51,670
anybody use anything for those type of

1875
01:17:56,220 --> 01:17:54,430
methods I myself I don't ingest anything

1876
01:17:57,450 --> 01:17:56,230
the only thing I might adjust

1877
01:18:00,420 --> 01:17:57,460
occasionally is a little bit of caffeine

1878
01:18:02,430 --> 01:18:00,430
in the form of dark chocolate but I mean

1879
01:18:04,950 --> 01:18:02,440
I don't they haven't done anything in

1880
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:04,960
years I just Meo drink water for the

1881
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:08,530
most part and sometimes juice so I just

1882
01:18:13,620 --> 01:18:11,950
I don't maybe like the way that most

1883
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:13,630
drugs make you lose your sense of

1884
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:16,960
control fair enough I tell you you've

1885
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:20,410
been very open and and you you have I

1886
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:22,690
want to again stress to people that this

1887
01:18:30,690 --> 01:18:27,070
guy knows so darn much that we can't

1888
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:30,700
possibly bring it all forward in and I

1889
01:18:34,410 --> 01:18:32,080
like the way that in this interview

1890
01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:34,420
you've kind of brought it down I think

1891
01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:37,150
to more of a kind of low tech level

1892
01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:40,750
because you can get off on these things

1893
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:42,760
in a way that is necessary

1894
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:44,710
I mean you've mastered it and you have

1895
01:18:48,810 --> 01:18:46,960
to share that knowledge but it can be a

1896
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:48,820
little overwhelming for people that's

1897
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:50,710
why they need to go to the website fix

1898
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:52,690
your gut where they can kind of pick and

1899
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:55,090
choose and munch on this stuff and think

1900
01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:57,370
about it but you know the last topic I

1901
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,930
want to talk about I really want to kind

1902
01:19:02,570 --> 01:19:00,880
of pull you in another direction and

1903
01:19:05,699 --> 01:19:02,580
just something that's personally

1904
01:19:10,140 --> 01:19:05,709
interesting to me and that's

1905
01:19:13,799 --> 01:19:10,150
the the proposition of where medical

1906
01:19:18,359 --> 01:19:13,809
technology might be taking us not just

1907
01:19:21,629 --> 01:19:18,369
in the Hokie controlled phony medical

1908
01:19:24,299 --> 01:19:21,639
science that we see but the promises

1909
01:19:27,209 --> 01:19:24,309
that are being made for the quantum

1910
01:19:31,589 --> 01:19:27,219
leaps we might make with a strong AI

1911
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:31,599
with biotech engineering with gene

1912
01:19:38,219 --> 01:19:35,050
manipulation and all that stuff that is

1913
01:19:41,879 --> 01:19:38,229
right on the cusp of being real in a way

1914
01:19:46,169 --> 01:19:41,889
that is exciting to a lot of people but

1915
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:46,179
is also very very scary and threatening

1916
01:19:50,250 --> 01:19:48,010
to anyone

1917
01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:50,260
scratches blows that below the surface

1918
01:19:56,669 --> 01:19:52,900
yeah and then looks back at where we've

1919
01:19:59,759 --> 01:19:56,679
come from and says where the hell are we

1920
01:20:01,529 --> 01:19:59,769
heading so what do you make I mean

1921
01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:01,539
you've taken if you really look at it

1922
01:20:05,339 --> 01:20:03,429
you've taken kind of I was just saying

1923
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:05,349
extremely well-versed in this stuff but

1924
01:20:09,959 --> 01:20:08,050
you're taking kind of a low-tech science

1925
01:20:12,209 --> 01:20:09,969
approach you're saying hey man here are

1926
01:20:13,919 --> 01:20:12,219
some natural substances a lot of times

1927
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:13,929
supplements that you can get they're

1928
01:20:17,129 --> 01:20:15,550
just right out of they're out of nature

1929
01:20:19,529 --> 01:20:17,139
and you could take them and you can feel

1930
01:20:23,850 --> 01:20:19,539
a lot better and you can fill the gap

1931
01:20:27,419 --> 01:20:23,860
that medical science has created can you

1932
01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:27,429
jump over on the other side and say what

1933
01:20:33,140 --> 01:20:30,550
are we to make of these just moonshot

1934
01:20:37,319 --> 01:20:33,150
level advances that are being promised

1935
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:37,329
well I mean the way I look at the world

1936
01:20:41,729 --> 01:20:40,209
is probably a little bit negative so I

1937
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:41,739
would assume that a lot of those

1938
01:20:46,169 --> 01:20:43,840
technological advances if you want to

1939
01:20:51,029 --> 01:20:46,179
call it the genetic changes through

1940
01:20:52,919 --> 01:20:51,039
CRISPR or transhumanism they concern me

1941
01:20:56,819 --> 01:20:52,929
I mean I I'm afraid it's gonna turn into

1942
01:20:59,009 --> 01:20:56,829
kind of a future of like I have no mouth

1943
01:21:01,229 --> 01:20:59,019
where I'm less screen type thing where

1944
01:21:02,299 --> 01:21:01,239
if we integrate with AI and we live

1945
01:21:05,939 --> 01:21:02,309
forever

1946
01:21:09,299 --> 01:21:05,949
how if something goes wrong if it's

1947
01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:09,309
malevolent how could we be free you know

1948
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:11,260
as long as men can die as long as

1949
01:21:15,689 --> 01:21:13,090
tyrants could be defeated you know men

1950
01:21:16,949 --> 01:21:15,699
have the chance of freedom but doesn't a

1951
01:21:19,589 --> 01:21:16,959
lot of that stuff just seem kind of

1952
01:21:22,319 --> 01:21:19,599
inevitable I mean there are going

1953
01:21:25,260 --> 01:21:22,329
- it's like if you think back John on

1954
01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:25,270
the stuff that you know 15 years ago and

1955
01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:28,060
as soon as they roll out some you know

1956
01:21:32,129 --> 01:21:30,369
baby that's going to be cured or some

1957
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:32,139
you know mother who has some life-saving

1958
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:34,510
condition they can sell just about

1959
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:38,409
anything you know in terms of how it's

1960
01:21:44,970 --> 01:21:39,810
going to help somebody you know a

1961
01:21:46,859 --> 01:21:44,980
transplant or you know a biogenetic arm

1962
01:21:48,959 --> 01:21:46,869
you know we go oh my god that guy lost

1963
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:48,969
his arm and now we can now we can do

1964
01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:51,070
this and not only that but he can pick

1965
01:21:55,890 --> 01:21:54,040
up a dumbbell three times his own weight

1966
01:21:57,209 --> 01:21:55,900
you know I mean it's just gonna be a lot

1967
01:21:59,640 --> 01:21:57,219
of that stuff that we're gonna we're

1968
01:22:01,589 --> 01:21:59,650
gonna embrace because from a practical

1969
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:01,599
standpoint we're gonna say we're gonna

1970
01:22:06,330 --> 01:22:03,730
measure the pluses versus the minuses

1971
01:22:08,419 --> 01:22:06,340
and we're gonna jump on board and don't

1972
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,429
you worry that before long we'll just be

1973
01:22:12,899 --> 01:22:10,960
down that path and unless you're

1974
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:12,909
completely tight you're just not gonna

1975
01:22:16,319 --> 01:22:14,770
be able to we already are down that path

1976
01:22:18,810 --> 01:22:16,329
I hold something in my right hand now

1977
01:22:22,129 --> 01:22:18,820
that events a lot of EMF radiation that

1978
01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:22,139
most people so majority Americans have

1979
01:22:27,089 --> 01:22:25,150
that can track everywhere I go can

1980
01:22:28,379 --> 01:22:27,099
listen to me and possibly can't analyze

1981
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:28,389
my brain thoughts it's called a cell

1982
01:22:34,410 --> 01:22:30,369
phone I've accepted this quote-unquote

1983
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:34,420
marker the Beast a long time ago just

1984
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:36,130
because of the ease of use of being able

1985
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:38,710
to talk to people and send emails and

1986
01:22:44,729 --> 01:22:42,550
look at the World Wide Web so yeah you

1987
01:22:46,050 --> 01:22:44,739
have a point I've accepted it a lot of

1988
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:46,060
people have a lot of people are probably

1989
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:47,770
going to accept a lot of things in the

1990
01:22:55,770 --> 01:22:50,560
future but that necessarily doesn't make

1991
01:22:57,419 --> 01:22:55,780
them right I you know for example you

1992
01:23:01,290 --> 01:22:57,429
could ask me and it's a tough question

1993
01:23:05,490 --> 01:23:01,300
so I'll ask it myself my son he could

1994
01:23:11,729 --> 01:23:05,500
have been fixed through CRISPR would I

1995
01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:11,739
have had that done I don't know a part

1996
01:23:15,569 --> 01:23:13,540
of me wants to say yes because he would

1997
01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:15,579
have a better life they wouldn't have to

1998
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:16,750
deal with his ailment it would still be

1999
01:23:22,050 --> 01:23:19,449
here today another part of me says that

2000
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:22,060
it could cause some unforeseen an

2001
01:23:26,879 --> 01:23:24,400
incident and could trick or something

2002
01:23:29,399 --> 01:23:26,889
that could cause problems I don't know

2003
01:23:31,709 --> 01:23:29,409
it's a tough call it's a tough call it's

2004
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:31,719
kind of playing God either way that I

2005
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:33,510
think a lot of people don't

2006
01:23:38,540 --> 01:23:36,480
don't really fully embrace both sides

2007
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:38,550
that either side you pick you're playing

2008
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:42,510
God yeah but I think as human beings we

2009
01:23:49,550 --> 01:23:46,110
are made in the crater's image so you

2010
01:23:52,220 --> 01:23:49,560
know our minds or souls our bodies so if

2011
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:52,230
we look at it from that standpoint then

2012
01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:56,490
we play God you know to some degree

2013
01:24:01,310 --> 01:23:58,860
through a lot of things that we do on a

2014
01:24:04,670 --> 01:24:01,320
daily basis but isn't that problematic

2015
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:04,680
to say that in creator's image I mean we

2016
01:24:09,530 --> 01:24:06,570
don't know what creator is what we don't

2017
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:09,540
know if creator is an et we don't know

2018
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:13,770
if creator is an AI we don't know what

2019
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:17,040
creator is I believe in the hierarchical

2020
01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:20,910
order of consciousness I believe that to

2021
01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:23,460
me is code word for god but it's it's

2022
01:24:27,530 --> 01:24:25,230
not like a God in the cloud kind of

2023
01:24:29,540 --> 01:24:27,540
thing but I'm not sure either I don't

2024
01:24:30,770 --> 01:24:29,550
either believe in a God I believe that

2025
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:30,780
the Creator is unknowable

2026
01:24:37,670 --> 01:24:33,600
so unknowable leaves open the

2027
01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:37,680
possibility of et a layer of ete a layer

2028
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:40,350
of AI a layer of you know us being

2029
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,400
genetically modified beings that are

2030
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:47,100
just we're already you know playing in

2031
01:24:51,710 --> 01:24:49,290
that middle ground anyway I'm just I'm

2032
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:51,720
just not totally sure that I'm

2033
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:55,250
comfortable you know resting on the oh I

2034
01:25:00,650 --> 01:24:59,040
just look at who came before me and

2035
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:00,660
that's how I should look in the future I

2036
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:02,730
mean oh no I'm not either I look to the

2037
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:05,490
future - I'm just afraid that how much

2038
01:25:10,610 --> 01:25:08,370
soul are you willing to give I don't

2039
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:10,620
know I don't know what that soul is a

2040
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,510
and I can't answer that question either

2041
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:15,440
you know how much of what makes us human

2042
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:18,930
what makes us us are we willing what

2043
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:21,810
makes us individuals are we willing to

2044
01:25:28,420 --> 01:25:26,250
give up the good and the bad and one

2045
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:28,430
other question I'm gonna ask you alex is

2046
01:25:33,890 --> 01:25:31,170
you said that this is the direction that

2047
01:25:36,980 --> 01:25:33,900
we're headed into and it seems to be

2048
01:25:39,530 --> 01:25:36,990
unstoppable is there a possibility that

2049
01:25:41,570 --> 01:25:39,540
this has happened before that that's

2050
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:41,580
where I'm going - I mean I think when we

2051
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:45,120
open up that possibility or is it

2052
01:25:47,879 --> 01:25:46,449
happening

2053
01:25:51,180 --> 01:25:47,889
multiple times are an immeasurable

2054
01:25:53,790 --> 01:25:51,190
number of times all the universe already

2055
01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:53,800
and is it some cycle that isn't even a

2056
01:25:57,629 --> 01:25:55,900
defined cycle everyone's up just kind of

2057
01:26:00,660 --> 01:25:57,639
doing their own thing thinking you know

2058
01:26:02,189 --> 01:26:00,670
I'm the aunt and the anthill going oh my

2059
01:26:04,259 --> 01:26:02,199
gosh we just had the biggest natural

2060
01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:04,269
disaster in history because somebody

2061
01:26:08,459 --> 01:26:06,670
stepped on her anthill and the person

2062
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:08,469
has stepped on it was just like a man I

2063
01:26:13,620 --> 01:26:11,440
had to mow the grass you know sorry and

2064
01:26:15,779 --> 01:26:13,630
I do talk about the use of technology -

2065
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:15,789
for example my grandfather used a red

2066
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:18,880
light LED you know red light LEDs and

2067
01:26:26,430 --> 01:26:24,010
low laser a little tea therapy - on his

2068
01:26:28,739 --> 01:26:26,440
low-level laser treatment therapy on his

2069
01:26:32,189 --> 01:26:28,749
on his hip both time he broke his hips

2070
01:26:33,390 --> 01:26:32,199
both times to recover and the doctors

2071
01:26:35,759 --> 01:26:33,400
told him both times he would never have

2072
01:26:37,259 --> 01:26:35,769
to walk again I never be able to walk

2073
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:37,269
even though the second time we had a

2074
01:26:42,689 --> 01:26:39,670
full hip replacement and he's 92 and can

2075
01:26:44,430 --> 01:26:42,699
still walk so I'm not going to say that

2076
01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:44,440
I don't recommend the use of some

2077
01:26:52,699 --> 01:26:47,880
technology but I do believe that and

2078
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:52,709
Jack Cruz talks a lot about this that

2079
01:26:57,839 --> 01:26:56,650
you're not or it'll be very long time in

2080
01:27:00,419 --> 01:26:57,849
the future before we can ever replicate

2081
01:27:02,339 --> 01:27:00,429
the exact power of the Sun and the

2082
01:27:04,919 --> 01:27:02,349
different wavelengths that has available

2083
01:27:06,449 --> 01:27:04,929
to us modern lighting doesn't very

2084
01:27:08,279 --> 01:27:06,459
poorly through the use of fluorescent

2085
01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:08,289
lighting or LED lights you know they

2086
01:27:13,649 --> 01:27:10,510
don't work very well as far as their

2087
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:13,659
ability to mimic actual degree shifts

2088
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:16,719
and UV shifts and IR shifts at the Sun

2089
01:27:19,649 --> 01:27:18,130
that happens naturally throughout the

2090
01:27:23,729 --> 01:27:19,659
day and different benefits of each

2091
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:23,739
exposure to each thing so that's my

2092
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:26,130
thing is this is ever gonna be better

2093
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:28,449
than what's out there and I don't have

2094
01:27:36,930 --> 01:27:31,449
an answer to that but I tell you right

2095
01:27:39,569 --> 01:27:36,940
now it's not it's not any better and I

2096
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:39,579
can't tell you whether or not if they if

2097
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:42,880
we do we do have the technology to to

2098
01:27:49,379 --> 01:27:47,110
move Worlds if it will be used for the

2099
01:27:50,850 --> 01:27:49,389
nevolin purposes or malevolent purposes

2100
01:27:53,339 --> 01:27:50,860
I don't know I can know as most

2101
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:53,349
technology now whether ignorant or not

2102
01:27:58,469 --> 01:27:55,570
is used for malevolent purposes well I

2103
01:27:59,860 --> 01:27:58,479
think it does get back to this idea of

2104
01:28:02,440 --> 01:27:59,870
being able to

2105
01:28:04,270 --> 01:28:02,450
jump between these different worlds and

2106
01:28:05,470 --> 01:28:04,280
that's what I really like about your

2107
01:28:09,670 --> 01:28:05,480
work you know we haven't even gotten

2108
01:28:13,180 --> 01:28:09,680
into John has a lot of well researched

2109
01:28:16,780 --> 01:28:13,190
opinions on some conspiratorial stuff

2110
01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:16,790
that we haven't even gotten into because

2111
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:21,020
his main thing really is this book fix

2112
01:28:26,020 --> 01:28:22,880
your gut and he's helped so many people

2113
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:26,030
so so many people with his work and I

2114
01:28:31,150 --> 01:28:27,920
think it's great our guests again has

2115
01:28:32,650 --> 01:28:31,160
been John Brisson the book is fix your

2116
01:28:36,430 --> 01:28:32,660
gut you're gonna check out his website

2117
01:28:38,500 --> 01:28:36,440
as well it fix your gut dot-com John

2118
01:28:40,570 --> 01:28:38,510
it's been terrific having you on and we

2119
01:28:42,820 --> 01:28:40,580
might have to have another session and

2120
01:28:45,850 --> 01:28:42,830
talk about some of that other stuff and

2121
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:45,860
really freak people out thank you for

2122
01:28:49,780 --> 01:28:47,330
having me on skeptical Alex has been a

2123
01:28:51,580 --> 01:28:49,790
pleasure thanks again to John for

2124
01:28:53,650 --> 01:28:51,590
joining me today on skeptic oh the one

2125
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:53,660
question I tee up is the one I kind of

2126
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:56,480
teed up at the beginning is you know why

2127
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:01,040
try so hard on Hell if life is to a

2128
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:03,770
large extent predetermined predestined

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or controlled by forces that are way out

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of our realm why don't we spend so much

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time on health I know it's a topic that

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a lot of us kind of wrestle with back

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and forth but I'd be interested in

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hearing any thoughts you might have on

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that of course place do it is through

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the skeptical forum @sk EPT Iko com

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where you can find all the previous

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shows available for download for free

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and also other ways to reach out and

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connect with me I have a couple of

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interesting shows going up I'm kind of

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on this new path and you'll see it

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emerging there's some topics out there

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that are really interesting to me and

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I'm going to just pursue those as I do

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just kind of follow my nose and go with

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the stuff that I'm interested in

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exploring and then hopefully sharing it

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with you is something you'll find

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valuable until next time take care and

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bye for now

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[Music]

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so thanks for watching this video if it

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wasn't really a video but just an audio

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stored as a video I apologize but

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there's more videos out there as well

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but please check out the skeptic Oh

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website you can see it here we cover a

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lot of different stuff you might be

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interested in relating to controversial

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science and spirituality a lot of shows

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up there over 350 of them or so all free

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all available for download so do check